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10-31-2010 , 05:29 PM

Marcus5

centurion

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 122

when using pokertracker or holdem manager, what stats do you label: nit, tag, lag, fish

example: 11 (vpip) 6 ( raise preflop) =nit, and 15 6 = tag/reglular
20-24(vpip) loose player 25+ fish?

what do ya'll label them and what are ya'lls thoughts?

just trying to get better...

thanks

10-31-2010 , 05:35 PM

Effen

CRAB

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,004

Label: Idiot
vpip: 0-100
pfr: 0-100

10-31-2010 , 05:37 PM

Ponder

veteran

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,342

postflop tendencies are a better indicator for me in the games today

10-31-2010 , 05:40 PM

notontilt09

chopping down Ivey

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,764

plays more hands pre than me: lag
plays less hands pre than me: fell asleep at computer

10-31-2010 , 06:22 PM

WantToLearn

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,082

I label them as nits only if they are both really conservative in general AND don´t loosen up in steal/resteal battles.

I label them as sLAG only if they do whatever they do in a way that bothers me; if I feel like I can read them well and adjust accordingly, I label them as "reggish" which is my standard for standard players.

I also use a label "mediocre" for players who exercise some reasonable hand selection preflop, but limp/call or cold-call too much.

10-31-2010 , 06:49 PM

OMGitsCheddar

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,360

i like the animal system: Eagle, Jackal, Fish, Whale, Turtle, etc.

Giving people the animal labels really simplifies a lot of post flop decisions I have to make game time.

Last edited by OMGitsCheddar; 10-31-2010 at 06:57 PM.

10-31-2010 , 07:12 PM

ROM Amnesty

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,664

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGitsCheddar

i like the animal system: Eagle, Jackal, Fish, Whale, Turtle, etc.

Giving people the animal labels really simplifies a lot of post flop decisions I have to make game time.

This is excellent advice for new players.

I like to use the vegetable system.

10-31-2010 , 10:19 PM

ebffs

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,919

Lets keep Phils book a secret eeemmmmkaaaaa. Enough pros online as it is IMHO.

10-31-2010 , 10:20 PM

Jah Onion

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10,955

knows the outs system: pro
doesn't: fish

10-31-2010 , 10:24 PM

#10

squid face

ChatThreadPrez

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11,730

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

This is excellent advice for new players.

I like to use the vegetable system.

I use the sausage system:

KILBASA=big swinging richard ---very aggro
cocktail weenie=tight scared maniez ---nit

10-31-2010 , 10:40 PM

#11

Tumaterminator

HOCKEY!

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26,045

avatar system is simplest

11-01-2010 , 02:56 AM

#12

hurt

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,142

red: reg or regfish
green: fish

11-01-2010 , 03:01 AM

#13

BigRed0000

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 593

purple = fish

red = good reg.

other notes are just random **** like "big nit" or "slowrlling douchebag" etc.

11-01-2010 , 06:24 AM

#14

ROM Amnesty

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,664

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurt

red: reg or regfish
green: fish

Stop giving such invaluable advice to new players. Games are tough enough as it is.

11-01-2010 , 06:48 AM

#15

DoubleFly

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,983

I only use labels for pre-flop. True story.

11-01-2010 , 06:54 AM

#16

pokerbiker

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,589

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

Stop giving such invaluable advice to new players. Games are tough enough as it is.

why?

in most cases its just enough to identify fast whether its a fish or a reg?

the rest can be seen (often) by one view on vpip/pfr, or of course better reads.

11-01-2010 , 07:34 AM

#17

ROM Amnesty

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,664

My comment was rather obviously a joke.

11-01-2010 , 07:40 AM

#18

pokerbiker

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,589

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

My comment was rather obviously a joke.

yeah, now that i read it again its really pretty obvious.

you shouldnt post stuff when your brain is occupied elsewere

11-01-2010 , 10:58 AM

#19

HitmanHaydon

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 697

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

This is excellent advice for new players.

I like to use the vegetable system.

No money in FR, everyones too carrot.

11-01-2010 , 02:04 PM

#20

daveymck

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,601

Quote:

Originally Posted by HitmanHaydon

No money in FR, everyones too carrot.

Course there is players have post flop leeks all over the shop.

11-01-2010 , 02:06 PM

#21

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jah Onion

knows the outs system: pro
doesn't: fish

professional reference

11-01-2010 , 06:42 PM

#22

gregGGhehe

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,400

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGitsCheddar

i like the animal system: Eagle, Jackal, Fish, Whale, Turtle, etc.

Giving people the animal labels really simplifies a lot of post flop decisions I have to make game time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQjtHcSe4j0

JACKALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND EAGLES IN MY GAME!

POP EM ON THE RIVER

11-01-2010 , 07:54 PM

#23

Setzy

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 326

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurt

red: reg or regfish
green: fish

Every day is Christmas on your tables!

To OP, your labels aren't too bad, it's more realizing that not all 14/10's play alike, same for 17/14, or whatever. Notes are just as important as color codes.

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