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09-21-2009 , 08:02 PM

lozen

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,624

I have no history on player. This raise left me puzzled ans unsure comments appreciated

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
10 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG bslw ($97.85)
UTG+1 lmaestracci ($25.15)
UTG+2 axelps ($150)
MP1 oceanoflove ($145.20)
MP2 arti-royal ($187.95)
MP3 -corsair- ($21.50)
CO TECEL ($86.90)
BTN lengwmar ($50.10)
SB 1860robes ($62.15)
BB Hero ($100)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 10 players) Hero is BB 9

6 folds, TECEL calls $1, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: J

($2.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, TECEL calls $2

Turn: 7

($6.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, TECEL raises to $17, $13.5 to Hero ($93.5)?

09-21-2009 , 08:45 PM

2OutsNoProb

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 15,991

Yikes. Rough spot.
Turn bet should likely be a bit bigger.
As played, call, re-eval river. Shoving would lead to all worse hands folding and all better ones snap calling.

09-21-2009 , 09:23 PM

Fishlips_Jones

adept

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 760

grunch.

are you committed to an all-in or not? if you are, then shove, otherwise fold.

in general, i do not feel bottom two pair, with such a small (27bb) pot on this board, is a hand i want to commit 86 bb stacks with.

stack to pot ratio 66:27 = 2.4:1

Answer: i fold.

easily against an unknown.

09-21-2009 , 10:26 PM

BrTarolg

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 381

If you are feeling like a nit just fold, because any hand which he represents is crushing you here (all sorts of straights, sets, 2pairs better etc.ec.etc.)

If you had position then i would call and re-eval because you could bluff on all sorts of scarecards, (you might even hit your FH hahaha), and he might be FOS

09-22-2009 , 10:41 AM

lozen

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,624

Yeah I just folded

09-22-2009 , 03:14 PM

DiscoBisco

banned

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,701

fold

09-22-2009 , 03:56 PM

2OutsNoProb

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 15,991

I don't find a fold to be bad here.

09-22-2009 , 04:23 PM

donpeters

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 357

I'd also fold here.

09-22-2009 , 06:22 PM

SABR42

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23,304

Fold, but don't make a pussy bet on the turn.

09-22-2009 , 11:22 PM

#10

lozen

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,624

Quote:

Originally Posted by SABR42

Fold, but don't make a pussy bet on the turn.

Its more than 1/2 the pot?

09-23-2009 , 02:00 AM

#11

downgoesdown

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,264

bet bigger on the turn for sure, as played easy fold

09-23-2009 , 03:09 AM

#12

AbsolutCam

adept

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,098

Quote:

Originally Posted by downgoesdown

bet bigger on the turn for sure, as played easy fold

yes i agree

09-23-2009 , 12:16 PM

#13

Tbirdx24

old hand

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,630

This guy cannot be an unknown. He's <100bb's deep, and he open limped the CO. He's not a good player. he could therefore have quite a wide range of hands. I don't mind a fold, and I don't mind a call.

09-23-2009 , 01:18 PM

#14

AFchung

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,077

4.5 on turn and facepalm fold

09-23-2009 , 01:58 PM

#15

lozen

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,624

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbirdx24

I default my pokertracker to only show 100 hands min. He doesnt have a 100 so i call him unknown

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