I play mostly live 1/2 NL and lately have been trying to nail down a play which I think might be profitable, but I'd like to hear some thoughts.

Tight player raises, say in early position, and after a few callers hero gets in with some sort of drawing hand like 89s in late position. Flop comes random low cards, no draws. Tight villain c-bets for 1/3 the pot or less and everyone folds. Is this a good time to raise? Or, if you're getting frisky, reverse the positions and check-raise?

Seems like live rocks mini-bet AK here and fold to aggression a lot rather than checking to a big field or making a meaningful c-bet. This also seems to be true at the lower stakes (.10/.25-ish) online.

I don't have enough personal experience or data to show whether this is a profitable play (and obviously it's situationally dependent) but does anyone else have experience stealing with this kind of weak c-betting?

= DM =

If there are several callers and someone is willing to lead into them, even for just 1/3 the pot they probably have the pot. If it's heads up and someone tries this you might have a case for raising. On several opponents I make this play frequently with air, but I never do it without reads.

I have some thoughts on it. I'm not sure how this applies to live, but you can see that I have tried out your premise for re-raising them in some of the hands I posted in that thread.

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...umber=12516347

Thats a good thread Mike but not sure if it applies directly here. The people in your examples are min betting. I think thats way different from betting 1/3 the pot, especially into a group of people.

Lots of people just don't know how to size bets, and they also don't have anything to tell them what the pot is when playing live.

If the player is decent he will do it with monsters and air, as well as simple valubetting with qq to thin out the field.

very likely a monster given he is betting into multiple players.

headsup is a totally different situation