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10-21-2009 , 02:41 PM

#51

King Spew

Just average

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SimaoMacaco

Hmmm.. seems like a thinly veiled 'i know Phil Ivy' brag ITT

Well, there is one big lie in my story. I would never spend time with my database.

10-21-2009 , 05:23 PM

#52

ebffs

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,919

Quote:

Originally Posted by TILTyourlifeout

Not to denegrate anyone but i have found that poker played at Micro levels at typical 5/10cent level often tends to be tougher than top low limit games at 50C/$1 for two main reasons..

>poker players who play upper low limits tend to be first time depositors
>Occaisionally you will see them move down in limits from medium stakes and are running bad. Then quite often you will see them think they can outplay grinders at these levels.

I found out first hand on FT that this is the case.. with this perception in mind and being the gambler that i am it cost me big..

KNOW YOUR ROLL DONT PLAY OUTSIDE IT NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE TABLE LOOKS

10-21-2009 , 05:26 PM

#53

SammyG-SD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TILTyourlifeout

Not to denegrate anyone but i have found that poker played at Micro levels at typical 5/10cent level often tends to be tougher than top low limit games at 50C/$1 for two main reasons..

This is 100% true. Last night I did a short session at NL100 and it took about 600 hands to book $180 or so. This morning I did a coaching session at NL10, and it would take forever to make $180 or so..like 6K hands...NL10 is 10X harder than NL100.

10-21-2009 , 05:37 PM

#54

SimaoMacaco

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,989

This is a fact

Quote:

Originally Posted by TILTyourlifeout

>poker players who play upper low limits tend to be first time depositors

We laugh at those SSNL fools, hahaha

Quote:

Originally Posted by TILTyourlifeout

>Occaisionally you will see them move down in limits from medium stakes and are running bad. Then quite often you will see them think they can outplay grinders at these levels.

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honestly OP, the fact is that you seem very naive. I like your convictions but have you thought about channeling it into something more realistic, Islam perhaps?

10-21-2009 , 06:17 PM

#55

Spurs79

centurion

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deeply profound

..........fancy a HU game?

10-21-2009 , 06:57 PM

#56

TILTyourlifeout

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BotOnTilt

I don't really see how I should be impressed with your knowledge. Playing 5 years of freerolls doesn't really strike me as something that would give alot of experience in bankroll management.

There are tons of posts here about bankroll management. If you really had some new ideas you could have posted about them and how they compare to the ones that are fairly comon here (like having 20 Buy-ins if you play casually).

I'm curious about one thing, when you say "the largest internet tournament of all time" are you talking about some large freeroll? I'm just curious what the largest tournament was.

I can't say I will miss you too much, nor do I think I lost much if you do not post your thoughts about poker theory.

the record breaker on fulltilt with 50K people

10-21-2009 , 07:13 PM

#57

TILTyourlifeout

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurs79

deeply profound

..........fancy a HU game?

only if that's a picture of you and not some person you looked up..

fk i should talk im tilting every which way with women not to mention poker.. well at least i had a poker bankroll to begin with.. in terms of the ladies i would never have had as much as 5 cents in my account

To a large measure i feel as if i am in somewhat of a mire given the current state of things. and then getting bagged on a forum with other flakes making believe the're big shots seems almost incomprehensable..

its worse than i thought ive hit rock bottom

10-21-2009 , 07:25 PM

#58

TILTyourlifeout

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SimaoMacaco

This is a fact

We laugh at those SSNL fools, hahaha

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honestly OP, the fact is that you seem very naive. I like your convictions but have you thought about channeling it into something more realistic, Islam perhaps?

Lol im mad enough without going balistic at innocent people as often as the "good book" tells me

i am agnostic anyway.. who can honestly believe one way or another on such a tough topic when there is no visual proof. we humans are not complex enough to make those kind of judgements based on heresay

10-22-2009 , 04:54 AM

#59

Jah Onion

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[x] this thread delivers

10-22-2009 , 05:46 AM

#60

TwoSmeets

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TILTyourlifeout

just FYI, everyone here already knows basically everything you've said and understands it way better than you do. I suppose you posting it here is a good way to get your thoughts straight in your own head, but this thread is for your benefit, not ours.

10-22-2009 , 07:04 AM

#61

TILTyourlifeout

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoSmeets

no not really cause know one is making any constructive comments so the latter part of your argument is false.. the part about me only knowing the basics must be true if you say it is.. you obviously know me better than i know myself..

point well taken

10-22-2009 , 10:36 AM

#62

TILTyourlifeout

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King Spew

This summer, I finally spent some time with my poker database and started to seek out the mysteries of the game. After about two hours, it ALL became clear. So clear in fact that I immediately cranked up FTP and played for an hour and a half with EXTRAORDINARY success.

So I did the next thing I could think to do...I needed to call Phil Ivey and tell him of my great discovery. You see, he was playing in the biggest tournament of the year and had made the final table. When I tell him the Big Secret, he was sure to crush the final table...and maybe send a little coin my way as a thank you.

I get out my cell and begin to dial in my bud. He's not really a bud, but we play on the same site and he once said "LOL" to a comment I had when I was railing a fiddy cent table he was playing. So we were pretty close to buddom.

One ringee-dingee
Two ringee

{click}
PI: Hellow

KS: Hey Phil, this is your bud, king.

PI:

KS: you know, king spew.

PI:

KS: Anyway Philbaby, I gots da secret. Imma gunna let me finish, but first I gotsta tell you I'm a big fanboi. Anyway Philster, I know how you can run all over the table in November. It's a proven strategy....guaranteed. First we need to talk about preflop and position. The secret to this.... blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Don't forget blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's easy blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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KS: Anyway Phil, whatcha think. Maybe we can write a book together....or sumthin'.

PI: GTFO

{click}

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KS = TILTyourlifeout
IVEY = 2+2 SSFR forum

f u king spew at least i have friends.. ones that are visible unlike yourself.. your friends with ivey i find that very hard to believe

10-22-2009 , 11:18 AM

#63

King Spew

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TILTyourlifeout

Serious reply alert:

Post this in the micro section. I will reply (as I am sure others will) with serious feedback. I would reword parts of your original post if I were you....though I suspect English might not be your native language and for that I give you a {thumbs up}.

As others have suggested, YET YOU REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, this is poker 101 and has nothing to do with this subforum of 2+2. As Mike Matasow once famously said to an opponent at the table.... "The kiddie game is down the street"

I am going to make an assumption. You posted here because you wanted better player's opinions than what you assumed would be inferior comments and advice you thought you would receive in the micro fullring section.

Continuing with this serious reply.... my suspicion is that because you are new to 2+2, you have yet to really explore all that 2+2 has to offer you. I suggest you visit the Micro Fullring Forum and read the Concept of the Week thread that is stickied (always one of the first three or four threads on the top of the page). By reading the Concept threads that are linked, you will get a grasp of the level of poker thought needed at the micro level. You might be amazed to find that your original post here is even below those standards. Seriously, step back from your own thoughts and read the replies here! We can't take your message to heart or remotely take you seriously because your poker problems, phobias and "proposed solutions" need to be conquered BEFORE venturing out of the micros. In poker terms, YOU ARE THE FISH.

My suggestion is to continue with this thread in this manner:

"OK guys, I'm sorry. I posted this in the wrong forum. I am new here and thought this would be the best place. Can't say I deserve getting flamed so hard but I now understand your point of view. Thanks for the few replies that tried to help. I have a lot to learn in poker....and with posting on 2+2. I will try this thread in the micros and see where it takes me. Hopefully I didn't make too big an azz of myself this time."

However, if you continue to promote an image that is as much condescending as it is juvenile, and continue with "my topic is valid at this level".... ye shall reap what ye shall sow.

TILT, you are at a 2+2 crossroad. Many have been in your exact shoes before. My own personal opinion is that you need to look long term about 2+2....as you should with poker. Can 2+2 help you become a better poker player? If the answer is yes (which I guarantee)...or even maybe..... then chill out a bit, read and study in the micro area. You brought us a micro theory issue. To say it is beneath us to respond seriously may cut close to the truth....and not show us in a favorable light at all. However, read between the lines. We are being helpful.....when we steer you toward the micro section. But like the proverbial horse, we can't force you to drink. That is entirely up to you. But if you continue bluffing us, we will continue to come over the top.

I come in peace. You can choose the red pill or the blue pill. The choice is yours.

10-22-2009 , 11:19 AM

#64

King Spew

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TILTyourlifeout

f u king spew at least i have friends.. ones that are visible unlike yourself.. your friends with ivey i find that very hard to believe

nice.

10-22-2009 , 01:10 PM

#65

SammyG-SD

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wait, there is a micro forum?

10-22-2009 , 01:48 PM

#66

KurtSF

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG-SD

wait, there is a micro forum?

lol yeah there is, but the advice there is terrrrrrrrrrrrrible.

10-22-2009 , 03:02 PM

#67

BotOnTilt

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,509

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtSF

lol yeah there is, but the advice there is terrrrrrrrrrrrrible.

And most of the threads there are filled with spammy replies, mostly one word like "fold" or with some lame joke that the poster thought would be funny. Crap like that would never work here in SSNL.

10-22-2009 , 03:02 PM

#68

SammyG-SD

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OP,
Read thihttp://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78/micro-stakes-full-ring/1-000th-poast-you-gonna-f-up-612941/

Plus the evolution of a poker player thread is awesome.

10-22-2009 , 05:41 PM

#69

SimaoMacaco

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,989

nice read sammy.. i had not seen that post but its got some rich content.
..
advice ITT

10-22-2009 , 05:47 PM

#70

NOSKAA

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 119

Quote:

Originally Posted by TILTyourlifeout

I have gone broke a few times when playing poker over the past 3 months and i have come to the realisation that even though i love the game and have had fun it is just far too stressful to contend at even micro/low stakes..

this has attributed to micro-managing in that whenever you look to see your starting figure go up/down after a session it changes your perception on the game.

Poker is a game best played taking baby steps and all too often i see players like myself that have a great day then immediately after a big winning session they go broke due to overestimating their play and understimating the average player they go up against. (martonas is a good example)

i contend that anyone who is in my boat and is running bad.. take a month off or 2 and evaluate what really matters to you when playing the game and why you play.. serious or just for fun.

because at the end of the day its you vs the world

well said for real... i was in the same boat as you... so i took a month off after i went from playing holdem 1/2 and moving up to omaha hi/lo 1/2.. and i exhausted my bankroll chasing nut nut or calling wit second nuts... so i took a break and thought about it... and i came to the conclusion to play poker seriously... i dont recommend it for anyone, but like you said.... at the end of the day its me against the world... or me against everyones chip stack... lol

Last edited by NOSKAA; 10-22-2009 at 05:52 PM.

10-22-2009 , 06:01 PM

#71

NOSKAA

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 119

can someone help me out... im tryin to find some type of software to graph my winnings... please help... i play live by the way... i prefer to look at you while you bet.. not at my computer screen... any help is appreciated...

10-22-2009 , 06:09 PM

#72

KurtSF

Lucky Number Seven

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If you're serious...

*************.com

10-22-2009 , 07:56 PM

#73

OMGitsCheddar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NOSKAA

lol how did this randomly end up here?

10-23-2009 , 06:37 AM

#74

TILTyourlifeout

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King Spew

your the 1 who belongs in the nut house not i f-wit..

if you can't help me then go troll somewhere else and leave me be. no one cares for your rationale. you were once the new kid on the block and now your the outdated newspaper in the recycle bin

at least i am game to admit when im outclassed at low limits.. your probably a degen losing often at med-stakes and still pretending your half as good as ivey