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06-21-2008 , 03:11 AM
Villain is AndrewBoccia. Have him running at 12/11 over 400 hands. Earlier in the session I 3 bet him with J8s and showed it down.

Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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Hero (UTG): $201.00
UTG+1: $260.40
UTG+2: $204.05
MP1: $226.75
MP2: $200.00
CO: $179.55
BTN: $92.00
SB: $428.50
BB: $268.75

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $6, UTG+1 raises to $23, 7 folds, Hero calls $17

Flop: ($49.00) 3 T K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $36, Hero calls $36

Turn: ($121.00) K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $68

Last edited by EricDarland; 06-21-2008 at 03:20 AM.
06-21-2008 , 03:45 AM
either 4b pre or raise flop.
06-21-2008 , 03:47 AM
all in, rivers an ace
06-21-2008 , 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PartysOver
either 4b pre or raise flop.
+1

The End
06-21-2008 , 09:14 AM
wow you butchered the hand, 4b or raise flop
06-21-2008 , 11:48 AM
minraise and fold to a shove
06-21-2008 , 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Try__An__Hit
wow you butchered the hand, 4b or raise flop
told ya =)

I think c/r flop >>>> 4 betting here.

As played, I think you have to stack off, you are showing weakness to an aggressive player with only one hand in his range that beats you.
06-21-2008 , 04:31 PM
can i get a range of hands this guy calls a flop ch/r with that we beat? So far i have AK...any others?

and i dont think flatting pf is that bad....you cant be 4betting all the time.
06-21-2008 , 04:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by costanza_g
can i get a range of hands this guy calls a flop ch/r with that we beat? So far i have AK...any others?

and i dont think flatting pf is that bad....you cant be 4betting all the time.
Yes you can
06-21-2008 , 04:44 PM
ok, well....then i just dont want to
06-21-2008 , 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by costanza_g
ok, well....then i just dont want to
4 bet more
06-21-2008 , 08:38 PM
I think 4 betting any hand without tons of history sucks. Flop is debatable but why is calling a huge mistake when he has 2 outs?
06-21-2008 , 08:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricDarland
I think 4 betting any hand without tons of history sucks. Flop is debatable but why is calling a huge mistake when he has 2 outs?
Thats why you create history before you get AA ldo
06-21-2008 , 09:07 PM
To everyone who 4 bets AA here. What is your 4 betting range?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelisitaan
Thats why you create history before you get AA ldo
I have tons of respect for your game and your name is fun to say but I wish you could give me a serious response. Also, not everyone is a 32/25 minraiser who gets 3 bet half the time they open.
06-21-2008 , 09:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricDarland
To everyone who 4 bets AA here. What is your 4 betting range?



I have tons of respect for your game and your name is fun to say but I wish you could give me a serious response. Also, not everyone is a 32/25 minraiser who gets 3 bet half the time they open.
That was a serious response tho...create history before getting AA
06-27-2008 , 08:06 AM
although its quite possible he could have a K here you have also under repped your hand with your postflop actions. Even if you 4 bet this hand you still have a paired board on the turn. He is sensing weakness here and could have JJ,QQ and feels with KK out there u dont have one plus your passive line. Unless you are absolutely sure he has a K in his hand you have to felt this hand.
06-27-2008 , 08:24 AM
Quote:
I have tons of respect for your game and your name is fun to say but I wish you could give me a serious response. Also, not everyone is a 32/25 minraiser who gets 3 bet half the time they open.
Exactly...again another post from Kel where he is not recognizing the fact that not all hero's have the same image as him and that most hero's are posting about hands in levels where the game dynamic is quite different. There are certainly times where your average reg at NL$50-200 can create a higher expectation by flatting AA pre than 4b it.

I however accept that most good regs at NL$1000+ probably have a higher expectation from 4b. I was railing Mafews at NL£1000 and talking to him on MSN and he explained that flatting a 3b with AA usually misses value at that level.

Kel, I'm seriously not trying to get into a war with you or piss you off and before you start, I know, I know.... You=good, me=bad. All I ask is that you fully consider the style of play that hero's are trying to adopt, their image and also the dynamic of the game at the levels they are posting about

      
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