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600NL, probably easy spot. 600NL, probably easy spot.

01-16-2008 , 02:53 AM
Villain is 31/4/1.4 and seems to be generally bad, but have never seen him just insta push or anything. What does a somewhat clueless fish have here most of the time?

Full Tilt Poker $3.00/$6.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: $155.20
MP2: $241.00
CO: $918.70
BTN: $1013.85
Hero (SB): $626.25
BB: $666.15
UTG: $166.50
UTG+1: $239.25
UTG+2: $597.00

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with K Q
UTG calls $6, 2 folds, MP1 calls $6, MP2 calls $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, BB raises to $36, UTG calls $30, MP1 calls $30, MP2 calls $30, Hero calls $30

Flop: ($180.00) A 7 J (5 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $630.15 all in, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero ????
01-16-2008 , 02:56 AM
maybe this is why you're downswinging?
01-16-2008 , 02:57 AM
you dont have the nutt flush draw which = insta fold imo. villian can easily have you drawing to a 3 outer. and considering your luck has been pretty bad lately, i wouldn't play many drawing hands. if the ace was a diamond, huge difference, but since its a heart, laydown is the only option.
01-16-2008 , 02:59 AM
Ugh.

I misread this as me having the nut flush draw. I did this a bit earlier and forgot why I folded so easily.
01-16-2008 , 03:00 AM
I have a lot of trouble reading these hands as there is just so little information to work with. I think it has to be a fold.. and i have no clue what random fish does this with.. if i had to guess i would say probably 2pair>Ax>dd+pair>set.. but there is frankly no way to know so its a **** spot and we have nothing but variance right?
01-16-2008 , 03:07 AM
Not having the nut draw makes this an easy fold, especially considering he could have the nut draw with top pair.

Let's assume the board was actually A J 7 giving you the the royal draw, I still think it's an easy fold v. a guy with those stats.

I think you need at least 45% equity to call, and I don't see it happening if his range is AJ/AQ/AK and sets. Can't think of any other holdings that might fit into his range given the way he played the hand. Even if you know he has weaker Aces in his range, I think it's a fold.

Be good,

Smaug
01-16-2008 , 03:08 AM
call to get closer to even?
01-16-2008 , 03:12 AM
dangit someone close this I read it wrong and thought I had the nut flush draw.


I didn't read it wrong while playing the hand and did fold.
01-16-2008 , 03:13 AM
Even if we had the nfd this isnt even close prod.
01-16-2008 , 03:14 AM
Ehh,

That I would say is probably true as well, which is why I put probably easy. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't leaking bad by folding this without even thinking about it.
01-16-2008 , 03:46 AM
Sanity check post.. yes you are sane.. next
01-16-2008 , 04:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by los_toros
call to get closer to busto?
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