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09-06-2010 , 12:50 AM

#26

slowlane123

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,615

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachvac

Well the I won't tell you why comment was a joke because I had just told him posts like that were dumb saying "this is true but I won't say why".

Awww I was actually enjoying quite a good chuckle at your post which I knew was level but then you explained it = [/laughter]

I think you played this OK imo and I think zv's post was pretty spot on

Also, I don't think 11% 4b is particularly low? Infact, I thought it was relatively high?

09-06-2010 , 12:51 AM

#27

jessyj

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Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,860

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowlane123

Also, I don't think 11% 4b is particularly low? Infact, I thought it was relatively high?

depends what his pfr is which was never revealed. It is low for almost anybody though.

09-06-2010 , 03:06 AM

#28

DiscoBisco

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,701

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Spew

Lately I've been 5B bluffing with AA.

hahahahahaha

09-06-2010 , 03:09 AM

#29

TeeHeeICall

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 371

This thread is getting insane. Soon, we'll be talkign about whether 6-betting is profitable.

09-06-2010 , 06:55 AM

#30

wmermus

adept

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,082

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranka

I call preflop.

I will often fold ATo in this spot or 3bet if I think the villain has a wide opening range from CO.

Can you elaborate on the logic for calling?

09-06-2010 , 05:58 PM

#31

OMGitsCheddar

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,360

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeeHeeICall

This thread is getting insane. Soon, we'll be talkign about whether 6-betting is profitable.

Why is the idea of raising multiple times on 1 street as a bluff offensive?

We would have been talking about 6-bet bluffing long ago if the standard online bi was 250bb and not 100bb. If people have a bluff range, then bluffing becomes an option.

09-06-2010 , 08:10 PM

#32

Adam27X

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,107

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowlane123

Also, I don't think 11% 4b is particularly low? Infact, I thought it was relatively high?

An 11% 4bet range would be very high, but an 11% 4bet frequency is not.

09-06-2010 , 08:19 PM

#33

zachvac

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13,775

I still don't understand why anyone uses 4-bet instead of 4b range.

09-06-2010 , 08:39 PM

#34

straddle_me

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 862

I usually just flat shoves with AA I dont raise them

09-06-2010 , 10:17 PM

#35

hard2tel

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15,750

Quote:

Originally Posted by straddle_me

I usually just flat shoves with AA I dont raise them

leak imo

09-06-2010 , 10:31 PM

#36

13_Xerxes

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Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,968

Seems pretty standard.

Blockers, position, history, blablablabla...

09-07-2010 , 01:38 AM

#37

ranka

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wmermus

I will often fold ATo in this spot or 3bet if I think the villain has a wide opening range from CO.

Can you elaborate on the logic for calling?

Quote from OP:
Recently i've opened up my 3 betting range on the button when the CO has a high steal percentage which seems to be working well for me.

09-07-2010 , 01:49 AM

#38

springsteen87

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8,998

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenzor

lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachvac

Well the I won't tell you why comment was a joke because I had just told him posts like that were dumb saying "this is true but I won't say why".

that's why he was loling.

Seems like a good spot, he may be 4b 3%, but it's not JJ+/AKo/AKs, my only concern is that he 4b to $31, which, despite being a shade deep, is a little large to be balanced