Villain here is Marco Liesy, probably some random tourney luckbox who FTP decided to waste money on. He plays 5/10 occasionally and runs like 13/10 IIRC. Dont have a ton of hands with him but he seems pretty solid and maybe capable of a move here or there.

I had been running like 15/12 and havent gotten out of line really.

Its hard to give him credit for a set since he didnt raise flop which Im pretty sure would be his standard line here.

Anyone believe this fool?



Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: $965.00
UTG: $1000.00
Hero (MP): $1857.00
CO: $1555.00
BTN: $990.00
SB: $592.75

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with Q A
1 fold, Hero raises to $35, 1 fold, BTN calls $35, 2 folds

Flop: ($85.00) 8 3 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $60, BTN calls $60

Turn: ($205.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $140, BTN raises to $340,

btw its 6 handed

there's no reason to really fold here without some solid info.

What would be the purpose of his relatively small raise in this spot?

ya fold

if he thinks im nitty he could be balugaing(turn raise is almost always >1pair) me with any random crap he called the flop with

against most solid players i think this is a fold however i have seen him take this line before with a draw.

i would call and re eval on the river.

with a hand like JTd I dont mind his line as it does look quite scary.

His line doesn't make any sense..

If he was solid and aggro, he would raise flop with the set because of the FD possibility. On turn, what is he repping? It doesn't make sense, and it is just hard to tell player-to-player who will raise sets on flops like that and who will still slowplay it.

This flop is pretty standard one for slowplaying a set imo. Not really many scare cards that can kill his action. Also TAGs with like TT/JJ will often get valuetowned on this board because they think Villain is floating on the flop, so he might have that in mind.

That said, I don't think this is necessarily a fold. He's trying to rep exactly 6 combos (imo he doens't play Kings or Aces like this). It's hard to give him credit for so small of a range. Also, I don't see why he wouldn't just call again and let you hang yourself on the river. I guess tank-call as played and then c/c no-diamond?

He can have J10 or 109, and a flush draw is out. WTF is the first part of your advice meaning? This def. isn't a pretty standard slowplayable flop for two aggressive players.

In relation to all the boards possible, this is pretty dry and he has position so he can get value on all streets. Gutshot is pretty thin semi-bluff, you might as well just say he can raise anything.

I know I said "standard slowplay" but what I really mean is that it's not unreasonable for him to slowplay. In other words, if this aggressive player ever slowplays a set, this is a board where he might. I got the impression that you were saying "This makes no sense. He can't have a set" which is wrong imo. If the board was like 7h 8h Qc, that would be more correct.

stanard for me is a fold but i never feel right in replying to these stakes...

never folding

alright shove or call?

I think I'd shove. That way you stack his flush draws when they miss.

If you are running 15/12 and haven't gotten out of line its probably a fold.

With history I could see see shoving since his line doesn't make much sense at all.

I don't like calling unless you are calling most rivers.

I'm sure that folding here is exploitable as hell but it seems like people just always have it when they do this

I'd shove. He could be setting up a river shove with a FD and you might have some FE against him if he has the same hand as you trying to get to SD cheaply.

I fold against a 13/10 always

This particular villain is pretty aggro in my experience. Plus his avatar tilts me for some reason. I'd get it in on the turn against him.