Things of note:
1) Villain is Toby Won Kenobi as the topic indicates. He is 14/10/4.4 reg over thousands of hands. He three-bets me like there's no tomorrow. He three-bets me more than Stylistic and that's saying a lot lol.
2) My notes on Villain are that he's super aggro, capable of making moves, and that he hard bets the nuts from the lead, even on dry boards. That last note is a big contributor to my decision.
3) I've raised four of the last six hands. I had hands every single time, small pocket pairs and stuff, but idk if Toby thinks I'm "playing a rush"
4) I've never hero called him before. In fact, I probably fold to him too much.

I think I should've folded preflop but I was pretty sick of getting run over, a little tilted, and I was getting so so odds to mine (although as you'll see that's not what happens at all).

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP1: $287
MP2: $540.60
Hero (CO): $552.60
BTN: $285.50
SB: $451.10
BB: $400
UTG: $441
UTG+1: $394
UTG+2: $194.90

Pre-Flop: 8 8 dealt to Hero (CO)
5 folds, Hero raises to $16, BTN folds, SB raises to $52, BB folds, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($108) T 6 T (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

I think the flop is fairly standard. Any advocates for bet/fold the flop? Once he checks this flop, I really have no clue what to put him on. I was pretty certain he'd bet any real hand on this flop. Maybe he's slowing down with Jacks for PC, idk. He's probably putting me on the type of hand that I have, a medium pocket pair.

Turn: ($108) 2 (2 Players)
SB bets $72, Hero calls $72

This I vascilated on. 2 of hearts obviously couldn't have helped him, but idk how often he takes a shot here. I thought it was worth it to call.

River: ($252) Q (2 Players)
SB bets $212, Hero calls $212

Q is not exactly my favorite card, but this bet doesn't indicate he hit the Queen, unless he has QQQTT. If it were like CDL, I'd be like "crap, I bet he just got there with AQ" because I know he value bets like that. However, I don't think (and maybe I'm wrong) Toby Won would value bet that big with one Queen or with Jacks based on our history and his timing of betting it. I just really had no clue what to put him on, and I felt like my own hand was face up. I need to be good here about 31% of the time. Am I, or is this silliness?

He reraises Preflop - knowing he will be out of position the whole hand. Flop is boring, he checks - you check behind. Than he starts beting on a obvious blank card. Im sure most of the time (70%) he will show a Premiumpair on showdown.

Indeed his range for the preflopraise out of position should be AK AQs AA-99 or so. Im pretty sure your river call cant be good. He must have have 1 in 3 times AK than.

just bet fold the flop, i dunno something like 60 percent of the pot..... checking is fine i guess, but its not like your going to get any value from him on the turn from checking behind the flop, so since u never get called with worse i would probably just bet the flop, i think it allows you to play pretty perfectly against his range if he calls u on the flop u can shut down unless an ace or a king comes off, then i might turn my hand into a bluff and bet again........ if he does have ak/aq u wont give him a free chance to hit a hand or bluff u later, if he has a real hand and calls or raises you can just give up sort of cheaply, this will also discourage him from 3 betting in the future. Id check behind with a hand like aa-qq here a percentage of the time to mix my play up and hopefully get value later, but 88 i dont like . IF he is soooo tricky and aggro that u think he will be check raising with overcards here then your line is ok, but in full ring when u call a regs 3 bet and bet the flop i dont see him making many moves, so id just bet and fold if he raises

I think that if he plays the way you say he plays, by betting the flop you really set yourself up to make difficult calls.

i think when you check this flop it narrows your range a lot and makes your hand faceup a little. I find spots like this really tough. if he knows you have a pp then he's either betting big to get you to fold or betting big to get you to call! if he knows that he's been active with you lately and you're getting annoyed i would lean towards folding as i think if he thinks that i'm frustrated i could easily call down light here.

on the flip side this is a really good board for a PP so if he had a bigger one then wouldn't he bet it for value? i don;t understand why he would bluff the turn and not cbet the flop. You check/fold the same ammount that you do on a dry flop as a dry turn.

Personally in pos i would bet/fold. If he's gettin tricky cr bluffing a lot then bet/call and start flatting three bets with big hands more, or open your 4 betting range (for value mainly)

as played i'd fold the river but actually at the table i might look him up as im a station =)

what about making a small raise on the turn. If he shoves on you, he isn't making a move with AK. You define his hand and save money on the river those times you're beat. He probably put you right around the hand you had on the river which is why he pushed.

This is just the same idea as betting the flop - but much more expensive.

OP, do you ever have a big hand on the turn here? (i.e., do you ever smooth call the 3-bet pre with AA or KK, then check back the flop?) If you do, do you think Toby is aware of this and capable of putting you on a big hand if you raise the turn? Could he fold a hand like JJ to a raise?

All in all, since I'm sure you play with Toby enough for this hand to have an effect on how he plays you in 3-bet pots, I don't mind the call down. I agree that he tends to bet out his big hands right away. High variance, though.

Yeah I could have a big hand here, any big pair with a spade really (and sometimes even without the spade). However, I don't think that situation has ever arisen against Toby Won though, and the standard read for him to make of my action is a hand like JJ/99/88

It seems marginal to me. The question comes down to will he bluff in this spot more than a third of the time? Most players I come across will not, which is why when I make hero calls in this spot I'm probably sorry more than a 2/3 of the time.

All that said, I don't think a call here is terrible. It certainly seems like he either has a monster or a bluff -- although I suppose it's possible he's reading you for a mid-pair and is trying to get value from his AA/KK/AQ hands.

yeah i don't like it. he's good enough to try to get value with aa kk or qq by showing weakness then leading two streets. river call seems spewy to me against him.

meh, can go either way. Even if you are good say 20% of the time you can use this to show him you'll make a big call which might be worth the extra money if you play with him daily.

That also crossed my mind. I wanted to get him thinking next time he has like idk, A5 of hearts, and I raise in LP "Hey maybe I should fold this one".

b/f the flop has to be one of the worst plays available against this opponent. It is a paired board, that means you're either WA/WB. If he is as tricky and aggro as you say, if he bluff shoves AK and you fold...

What does he have, allthecheese, pls pm me. thx!