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01-08-2008 , 10:31 PM

The Eureka Kid

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SB is 12/7/3.8 over thousands of hands. My read on the flop when he three-bets is two pair+, most likely a set or straight. I don't know that he would opt to 3-bet with this sizing with QhJh or Jh8h. So I guess a lot of the time here I only really have nine outs I want to hit. CO is still in the pot, I have position on the aggressor, I call, hoping the CO will too. Shoving here to me seems just gross because I'm getting called nearly always and having nine outs. I hit trips on the turn, which I'm not exactly thrilled about. I wish I was good enough to fold the river, but I'm not. Even if he had QhJh, it got there, T9 is all I am really beating at this point and seems an unlikely he'd be putting in such a value looking bet on the end. Thoughts?

Poker Stars $1.00/$2.00 Pot Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $238.05
Hero (BB): $252.55
UTG: $243.45
UTG+1: $197.95
MP1: $196.40
MP2: $190.50
CO: $127.70
BTN: $27.40

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 6

4 folds, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1, Hero checks

Flop: ($6.00) 6

(3 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $14, CO calls $14, SB raises to $45, Hero calls $31, CO folds

Turn: ($110.00) 6

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($110.00) K

(2 players)
SB bets $50, Hero calls $50

01-08-2008 , 10:34 PM

Acevader

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Played fine if you ask me, dare I say maybe even perfectly!

01-09-2008 , 12:14 AM

QTip

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Looks great to me.

01-09-2008 , 12:24 AM

chopsticks

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Well played, no arguments here.

01-09-2008 , 02:02 AM

Bluegrassplayer

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If he bets more than half the pot it might be a fold, but with this suck bet on the river it's a definite call.

I think I probably fire the turn which is a bad play, I definitely like your check more.

01-09-2008 , 03:38 AM

CalledDownLight

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omg, bet/call the turn, wtf? I really don't believe you took this line. Is this a joke post? $72/call is the best turn line.

01-09-2008 , 06:46 AM

The Eureka Kid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

omg, bet/call the turn, wtf? I really don't believe you took this line. Is this a joke post? $72/call is the best turn line.

Not a joke at all. What range of hands are you putting the villain on at this point? He can't have 67/68 of hearts. He probably folds J8/QJ/J7 hearts now that the board is paired (hands I think he is unlikely to three-bet this way on the flop and probably hands I want to give a free card to anyways). His range is pretty much exclusively TT/99/78 here anyway the way I see it....

01-09-2008 , 06:59 AM

Flu

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You played it well. I'd say he has at least two pair, and like you said, you're ahead only T9.

01-09-2008 , 07:22 AM

Bigfoot

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Wow bet/call the turn and it isn't even close. Once he checks it's sooooo likely you're ahead of his range and he can still call and shove with worse hands.

01-09-2008 , 02:33 PM

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CalledDownLight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Eureka Kid

he raised the flop and now checked the turn and his range is comprised of 3 hands and they all beat us?

01-09-2008 , 04:42 PM

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The Eureka Kid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

he raised the flop and now checked the turn and his range is comprised of 3 hands and they all beat us?

I honestly do not believe that this villain is three banging the flop out of position vs. a raise and call in a limped pot with anything less than two pair or straight/flush draw.

TT/99/78/T9/69/T6/Jh8h/QhJh/Jh7h

What others hands do you see him with on the flop? He completed the small blind pre-flop, so overpair is pretty much out of the question.

01-09-2008 , 05:56 PM

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gman339

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I think you might see KhQh show up here as well sometimes. I think TT and 99 are less likely due to pre-flop (though definitely still possibilities). On turn you are ahead of T9 and all the draws. I think I bet half the pot.

01-09-2008 , 07:22 PM

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Bigfoot

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Eureka Kid

He completed the small blind pre-flop, so overpair is pretty much out of the question.

This is incorrect. Unless you have a specific read that he literally always raises overpairs pf then you have no reason to make this assumption. Lots of players don't raise overpairs out of the blinds vs one limper for deception purposes.

01-09-2008 , 08:05 PM

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CalledDownLight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Eureka Kid

I misread the action. I thought he just raised not b3b. Hand is fine.

01-09-2008 , 09:30 PM

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ez game

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This is a tough spot. His reraise on the flop looks real strong and Im thinking he flopped straight or has a set with small chance of hand like qj of hearts. On the river we can't even beat the qj anymore. If I was playing I would have called but the more I think about it fold is probably the play here. I just don't think we are seeing a busted draw or 109 often enough despite the reasonable odds on a call. I think his most likely holding here is he flopped straight.

Last edited by ez game; 01-09-2008 at 09:43 PM.

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