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02-13-2009 , 02:38 PM
First of all, this is my first post on twoplustwo so forgive me if my post format is a little weird.

Game: 1-2 NL at local casino, $200 max buy-in. 9 Players.
Hero Table Image: I have played approx. 20% of hands for the last 2 hours or so, I would say tight-aggressive.
Villian Table Image: Only been playing at this table for about 45 min., has been very aggressive and calling bets with weak hands/bad odds to hit draws. 3 hands ago won a large pot by calling $50 w/ a $40 pot w/ only a gut shot out of position w/ only one card to come.

Button: $250
SB: $75
BB (Hero): $205
1st Pos: $600
2nd Pos: $100
3rd Pos: $150
4th Pos: $175
5th Pos: $400
6th Pos (Villian): $275

Action: 3rd and 4th Pos. limp in and to Villian sitting 1 off the Button, who opens for $15 (standard open-raise at table has been around $12). Action folds to me in the big blind with KK. For the last 30 min. my thinking was that I had been forced out of a few hands by the Villian who is playing very aggressive, so I need to sit and wait for my opportunity to use this aggression to my advantage. I smooth call the $15, 3rd Pos. folds and 4th calls.

Pot: $48
Flop: 823

My thinking is this is a potentially great flop, initially I put Villian on two overcards or middle/low pair, and 4th Pos. is already moving his cards to the muck and seems frustrated. I know there are 2 clubs out there but I still decide to check, 4th Pos. checks, and Villian bets $35 into a $48 pot. I contemplate making a min-raise, however I am fairly certain 4th Pos. will fold and the board doesn't really seem threatening save for the flush draw. I call the $35.

Pot: $118
Turn: 10

Another good card, although could open up a straight draw for villian (possible, could have raised with QJ or J9s) but my feeling is that this didn't hit the Villian in any way. I once again check, Villian puts in $75. My thinking is that either he has air and is semi-bluffing w/ flush draw, A10, A8, K10,K8 or already has a pair with JJ-22. A set seems highly unlikely, for the Villian has already previously shown one set and he slow played it the entire way. Now my thoughts are he has a flush draw w/ A8 or K8, or has JJ, 99-44. Any way I see it I have the best hand. I reraise all in for $155 total. Villian waits for about 10 secs, states he thinks I have A10. before calling and shows JJ. I show my KK Villian states that he in no way would ever fold an overpair in that situation.

River: J

Villian wins pot, puts me on empty.

Analysis: I'm not trying to tell this story as a bad beat, I am just wondering if my decision to slow play until the turn was a wise idea? My thoughts were that I could potentially double up through him if I allowed him to control the action when I "know" he has an inferior hand. I wanted the call on the turn and got all of my money in good. However, against an extremely aggressive player, with only one-pair (albeit a good one, KK) is it wise to slow play the way I did? Should I have reraised preflop, or at least raise post-flop? Although my trap was "successful," should I have just taken control earlier and hopefully taken the pot without a showdown? Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
02-13-2009 , 02:48 PM
1. 20% hands played is not TAG, it is closer to loose aggressive.
2. The villian sounds like a loose agressive player. I 3-bet this preflop as there is a good chance he will call. I also raise the flop, especially multway as a mere overpair is not great in a multiway pot. I then shove turn.
02-13-2009 , 04:05 PM
Please for the love of all that is holy, 3-bet the **** out of that monkey preflop.
02-13-2009 , 04:40 PM
tl;dr
02-13-2009 , 04:47 PM
I do agree flatting pf is a long term mistake the 4th position caller is getting odds with limping pf hands like suited connectors and small pp. These are the hands that may hit the flop you described as good.
You also are out of position the whole hand post flop what would you have done if the board was Axx? That aggressive guy would fire almost every time and you would have no idea of his hand range. 3 bet this pre flop. I agree with the guys above he will likely still call. I dont believe the added value gained by checking here and hoping he bluffs, cbets ect into you will out weigh the long term loses to let him draw for free and playing oop.

      
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