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10-05-2008 , 09:24 AM

LoveAeris

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Vilain is 33/14/1 with a 8% 3bet and 14% att to steal on 100 hands only.
Is it bad or really bad to ship it here ?

Party Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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CO: $208.20
BTN: $211.25
SB: $181.55
Hero (BB): $217.55
UTG: $200.00
UTG+1: $113.45
MP1: $198.00
MP2: $266.65

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with A

6 folds, SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $25, SB raises to $74, Hero ???,

10-05-2008 , 09:41 AM

TheRenaissance

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i ship, but then i spew alot in these spots

10-05-2008 , 09:57 AM

punish15

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Not really a fan of shipping here, I probably also just call SBs raise fwiw.

10-05-2008 , 10:09 AM

Acevader

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I like flatting his raise here - he's almost certainly raising all Ax hands and keeping them live and in play when you have a dominating holding and position is probably a more profitable line. A word of warning though; you shouldn't be playing fit and fold poker on the flop as you are well ahead of villains range even unimproved.

10-05-2008 , 10:29 AM

Smart Money

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I'd 3-bet, but once he fires back, with no history between you, it's a pretty easy fold. If you had AK then there would be more to think about, but AQ is a much weaker holding than AK here.

10-05-2008 , 11:00 AM

Moke

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I fold to his 4bet. He has a very low att to steal and the 3bet data isn't relevant in only 100 hands.

10-05-2008 , 12:42 PM

LoveAeris

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ok thank you all, i shiped it and lost to AA obv.
I see the advantages of calling now, i was just in auto pilot 3bet mode and didnt think so much about it.
In a similar situation with AK, do you think it's ok to auto ship it if the opponent is not extra nit ?

10-05-2008 , 01:20 PM

riverfish1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveAeris

yes

and I think flatting pre is best. As played I would fold to the 4-bet. What are you hoping he's 4-betting here? You're a coin flip vs. JJ and really losing to pretty much everything else.

10-05-2008 , 02:32 PM

AllTheCheese

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3-betting is pretty much a must as he never folds anything. Since he's relatively passive (raises less than half the hands he plays), I'd fold to his four-bet as the wide majority of these fish have tight four-betting ranges.

10-05-2008 , 03:38 PM

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il_martilo

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I think you can probably ship with AK here but AQ is definitely a fold for 100BB.

10-05-2008 , 07:39 PM

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wakeup

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

but his 3b% is 8%.
i dont compute

i interpret it as he calls a wide range, and also raises a wide range?

10-05-2008 , 07:39 PM

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wakeup

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oh 100 hands only tho, ignore the 3b%?

10-05-2008 , 09:46 PM

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negipai98

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Quote:

Originally Posted by il_martilo

I think you can probably ship with AK here but AQ is definitely a fold for 100BB.

This. You're behind or way behind much of what he's 4-betting here. Having AK puts you in a much better spot.

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