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11-05-2008 , 12:04 AM

IK828

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 144

villain runs 16/7.55/1 over 53 hands

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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UTG: $102.85
UTG+1: $13.70
MP1: $47.25
MP2: $180.35
CO: $142.05
BTN: $47.50
SB: $10.65
Hero (BB): $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Q

4 folds, CO raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, CO calls $8.50

Flop: ($24.50) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($24.50) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12,

My question is how is the way I played it? Do you guys have the heart to cbet this disgusting board??????

11-05-2008 , 02:07 AM

panoptic0n

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 16

What is disgusting about the board?

It's perfect board for you as a reraiser preflop. I definitely cbet on that board 100% of my range. If he calls/or raises - I'm obviously done with the hand but you definitely have to cbet that.

11-05-2008 , 02:08 AM

Fishpocalypse

adept

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 987

I think you should cbet

11-05-2008 , 03:22 AM

Gabethebabe

Malware Jedi

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 27,607

Easy cbet. Avoids the problems you have now: is he betting because he has a hand or because you show weakness? Not too many villains are capable of floating a flop like this with, say, TT.

11-05-2008 , 04:42 AM

luka allen

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,975

Uhm. I am still learning and all, so forgive me if this is wrong:

Unless villian is folding KQ, why do we cbet here? We are only folding weaker hands, right? Shouldn't we let JJ and TT bluff here? I guess this would be easier if we were in position, so we could maybe get a cheap showdown.

That being said, I do not trust myself enough on the turn/river, so I would fire on the flop and give up if called.

11-05-2008 , 04:44 AM

abstractls

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,568

sure we can let JJ and TT bluff, but are you willing to let him bluff 2 streets to find out he has an ace or king? Or is it easier to bet now and see if he has it.

11-05-2008 , 11:39 AM

jaydreb

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 691

Quote:

Originally Posted by luka allen

Uhm. I am still learning and all, so forgive me if this is wrong:

Unless villian is folding KQ, why do we cbet here? We are only folding weaker hands, right? Shouldn't we let JJ and TT bluff here?

I suppose the problem with letting JJ and TT bluff is that the bluff going to work too often!

11-05-2008 , 11:48 AM

Trimms

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 154

Quote:

Originally Posted by luka allen

Shouldn't we let JJ and TT bluff here? I guess this would be easier if we were in position, so we could maybe get a cheap showdown.

That being said, I do not trust myself enough on the turn/river, so I would fire on the flop and give up if called.

This.

Much easier to balance your range when you do actually have the A or K if you c-bet this board. If you continually check on these type of dry AKxo boards when you miss, you are going to be way too easy to read. You have the initiative, use it!

Check/calling with the intention of picking off JJ or TT bluffs is not a profitable strategy OOP. So you c/c on the flop...and the turn? or the river? Too hard to do OOP.

11-05-2008 , 11:48 AM

wakeup

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,936

why would they bluff the river with SD value? i dont think villain will go for thin river bets with this sort of hand either. wait thats as played

if we check the flop, we'll have to c/call two streets to see if he's checkin down on the river to see if we're beat.

11-05-2008 , 12:40 PM

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Johnes Benjamin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,971

If you think he can bluff once then c/c is fine, but I don't see any reason to simply give up
I highly doubt he's aggro enough to make c/c 2 streets ok though.

If you 3bet him light with T8c, wouldn't you think this is a perfect board to cbet?? The only thing different here is you have some SD value. So go ahead and c/c once if you want, but c/f is super weak.

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