a 24/5 over just 45 hands.

just WHAT can we put villain on? QQ/JJ is sooo in his PF range (due to him tanking and calling PF)

I immediately really hated the flop...

When he minraises me, I shoved and prayed he had KK.


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $74.00
SB: $116.55
BB: $20.00
UTG: $20.10
UTG+1: $107.40
Hero (UTG+2): $125.50
MP1: $108.20
MP2: $173.30
CO: $120.30

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+2 with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $7, 4 folds, Hero raises to $21, MP2 requests TIME, MP2 calls $14

Flop: ($43.50) 4 Q J (2 players)
Hero bets $27, MP2 requests TIME, MP2 raises to $54, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $104.50 all in, MP2 calls $50.50

Turn: ($252.50) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($252.50) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

i dont think you can fold you have about a pot sized bet left in your stack.
pots like $70.5 and you have $77.5 left.

only thing you could do different i think is to 3bet larger pre.

if he has set in a 100BB 3bet pot much bl (:

my 2 cents anyway

given villains stats and pre flop action this seems like the best line. I would assume he's also calling with KQ and AQ pre some of the time along with other junk.

The only thing I can really put villain on is JJ, QQ, KK, and maybe AJ/AQ. His PF line is nothing short of bizarre and without past aggressive/spazzy history I think this is a fold. I don't know if we can call here and evaluate because I don't think it gets us anywhere in the hand. If we 4b shove, we can only get called by one hand that we're beating (KK) IMO.

Edit: Crunched numbers. Looks like an AI.

i mean if hes a rock and only calls 3bets with KK QQ JJ

you could fold to min raise

This range is probably a littttle tight. Interesting.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

14,850 games 0.005 secs 2,970,000 games/sec

Board: 4h Qc Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.256% 51.82% 03.44% 7695 510.50 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 44.744% 41.31% 03.44% 6134 510.50 { JJ+, AQs }

AQ never min raises flop though or at least majority % of time it doesnt.

is there a way in PokerStove to put like AQ*.25?

dont include all the AQ combos

Just put less combos of the hand, i.e. eliminate AQhh and AQss to donweight it 50%, AKA 2 out of the 4 combos. I don't think you should downweight AQs any more, if at all, though. If anything, a random with fishy-ish stats could have AQo sometimes.

Also, since you have Ac and Ah, there are only 2 combos of AQs available, anyway. And Pokerstove does account for that. You can't really downweight it much more, except for taking out one of the 2 combos, without completely eliminating it, which would be wrong IMO.

Oh, and I think that range is just about right.

You have to push 77.5 to win 252.5 = ~31% equity need. EZ shove, but you don't love it. You're > 50% even if his entire range is JJ+

77.5(77.5+175) = 31% required ya

so if we put his range as tight as

JJ, QQ, KK

theres 6 combos of hands we crush KK
theres 6 combos of hands that crush us QQ,JJ

50% of time were good

but i guess does he always flat all of his KK combos?? -.0

[x] 45 hands sample

easy fold, people are really passive these days and they always give up in reraised pots without the nuts. also people who min 3bet pre tend to be really good and rarely make mistakes post flop

also putting in 21 ****ing big blinds pre with AA is in no way pot committing

Its like JJJ here always, but i call anyways. God, i hate minraises!

The tank/minraise is ALWAYS the nuts

its probably a fold but during the game i just can't do it

What would be a better sizing preflop here? something like 28-30$?

SHIPITTT, but definitely raise to like 28 pre. hes never minraising/folding pre, so we need to get as much value as possible here.
this makes the call much easier

Too little information to make it obvious. Howver i don't think he minraises AQ there all that aften ( assuming he's calling a preflop reraise with it ). Sigh and fold.

aqs or qjs is more likely here than anything else imho, then Kqs.if he had the 1st or second nuts(jj,QQ) he calls on flop and raises you on turn. KK would 4bet pre. The minraise is so FISHHHHHHHHHHlike(both pre and on flop) I would snap push. Worst case he has qjs here.
So did the 4 on turn help you?
Lookin forward to results. Btw I cant fold aces unimproved so please dont flame me for my 2 cents here and my thought of him holding either qjs or aqs or kqs.

QQ/JJ gets my vote, but wouldn't be shocked if it's AQ. KK probably reraises pre

wtf

never fold AA after 4b 125bb deep