The villain is an 18/15 reg over 2,303 hands.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $152.24
SB: $170.60
BB: $104.00
UTG: $111.04
UTG+1: $105.98
MP: $119.01
MP+1: $109.06
LP: $119.42
Pokie (CO): $103.00

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Pokie has Q T

fold, fold, MP raises to $2.04, fold, fold, Pokie calls $2.04, fold, SB calls $1.54, fold

Flop: ($7.12, 3 players) J 3 K
SB checks, MP bets $3.60, Pokie calls $3.60, fold

Turn: ($14.32, 2 players) 2
MP bets $7.25, Pokie calls $7.25

River: ($28.82, 2 players) 4
MP bets $26.00, Pokie raises to $62.00, MP raises to $106.12 and is all-in, Pokie calls $28.11 and is all-in



Did I play this hand fine, or should I have just called on the river? Once the villain jams I guess I have to call even though I'm getting shown the nut flush almost every time? Maybe best would have been to raise all-in on the river?

I know I've been posting a lot of 'coolers' recently, but I am going on a bit of a downswing and I am wondering whether I am overvaluing hands in certain spots.

I might fold pre, but as played, I'm definitely raising the flop. Cooler hand otherwise, idk if I'd get away from it without reads. Even then it's hard.

I never fold this hand pre-flop when in position, and very rarely when out of position.

Facing a 3x raise or less, QJs, QTs and Q9s are auto-flats for me in position, and Q8s sometimes to a 3x raise, particularly if there is a fish in the pot, and always to a 2.5x or 2x raise.

Facing a 4x raise, I just flat QJs and QTs.

River raise is spew barring any other history.

So we should only be drawing to nut flushes now vs regs?

Please point me to where I said that? River raise is spew Reg vs Reg, pretty clear cut Unless your playing those 1/50 regs that can't fold a flush.

He might not want to fold KK or JJ either.

He never has KK/JJ here, his turn and river sizing makes that very obvious. More so on the river

tough tough. i would've raised on the river myself.

With his initial sizing on the river, why would you call his 3bet shove? He doesn't do it with 98hh buddy. But yeah, call or minraise/fold.

I think I like raising flop.... Blocker bet turn.. Lead 1/2 pot river... And puke calling raise

Agree with TBF/valee.

Raise flop. Villain's street by street sizing is a leak, which allows you to happily just call river. If you want to raise river then min-raise/fold is best vs his actions, assuming not a massive amount of history. If he continued with his 1/2 pot sizing on the river then raise > min-raise.

just shove vs river bet.

Who bets half pot OTF and OTT on a flush draw board and pots the river when the flush hits ?
He's a cool guy, he's literally telling you he has a flush. Now this sucks because you block most of his Ahxh so you have very decent odds to have the best flush. But unless you have already been bluffraising this kind of river I don't see how he's calling a raise with something like 9h8h.

And don't post results or you'll hear result-oriented answers like mine.

I don't think he'll be posting results again in the near future.

cannot comprehend how a 100nl reg sizes this badly. But yeah definitely never raise river vs regs.

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I'm not sure I agree, since not all regs are alike, and they play with different styles.

Maybe I'm just used to micro stakes poker where you can raise the river without the nuts.

This is why I believe it's bad to not be raising the turn or river without the nuts:

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

dexter00 (SB): $100.00
TakeCareAA (BB): $89.50
uche_18 (UTG): $132.74
FULLHOUSEDEE (UTG+1): $44.47
raise2AA (MP): $129.97
PampersXP (MP+1): $101.50
t2pkid (CO): $113.58
Pokie (BTN): $103.37

dexter00 posts SB $0.50, TakeCareAA posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Pokie has K K

uche_18 raises to $3.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, Pokie raises to $9.00, fold, fold, uche_18 calls $6.00

Flop: ($19.50, 2 players) 9 K 3
uche_18 checks, Pokie checks

Turn: ($19.50, 2 players) 7
uche_18 checks, Pokie bets $11.17, uche_18 calls $11.17

River: ($41.84, 2 players) J
uche_18 checks, Pokie bets $25.97, uche_18 calls $25.97



By not raising the set of sevens at some point, you can never hope to show a profit trying to set mine to a 3-bet OOP like this.

Ok, in this actual hand, the other player 'saved' himself some money by just calling down, but their overall play for the hand was terrible in my mind, since their actions are just completely unprofitable.

Not sure if you're trolling or just not very smart? or both?

Not trolling.

How about you explain your reasoning instead of trolling yourself with your random, short remarks that don't really go into any detail. Maybe you don't want to reveal in case you accidentally make the games harder to beat. Perhaps that is why you're doing this.

It's almost certainly -EV to try and set-mine, and then just check/call down when you hit, just in case you happen to be set over setted. If your opponent won't stack off with worse than a better set, then you shouldn't be trying to set-mine him.

Considering his position he's unlikely to have 98s, so really, if the villain is playing his hand like a flush, (you say his sizing means he hasn't got KK or JJ), he can only really have A9s or A8s, in which case surely we should be folding and not even calling on the river if the villain is playing his hand that face up? Why bother puke-calling with the queen-high flush when we're only ever paying off a better hand due to the villain's apparently transparent betting line?

Which is why I said RARELY, whereas the poster above me said NEVER. Either way though, both are more correct general observations at any stake below 200.

Maybe most regs fold their non-nut flush draws on the turn to avoid difficult river spots?

I don't like doing this because people double barrel with a decent frequency, so this means that I am folding too much of my range on the turn after calling with lots of different hands on the flop. It also means that I have less potential value combos in my range if the flush does hit on the river. If the flush fills with the Ace of that suit, then my opponent will always know that I can't have a flush if he knows that I muck lower flush draws on the turn.

It can still be +EV to call to setmine without raising on boards where worse never calls you.
Just because you got a specific run out you can't raise on, doesn't mean that overall it's going to be -EV.

Although, imo it almost certainly is -EV to call in this exact spot, but you're reasoning is wrong. You're doing what a lot of lower stakes FR players do and looking at every spot in a vacuum, which isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as you are conscious that you are doing it, so you can avoid it when you need to. (EG when you are examining wether setmining is profitable based purely on one hand.)