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100NL QQ multiway too tight? 100NL QQ multiway too tight?

04-07-2008 , 10:40 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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villain running at 17/12/1.33 over 96 hands

MP2: $95.35
CO: $215.35
BTN: $96.40
SB: $77.35
BB: $190.05
UTG: $41.40
UTG+1: $107.40
Hero (UTG+2): $138.10
MP1: $117.40

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, MP1 calls $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50, 2 folds, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($17.50) 5 7 4 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $14, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $14, SB folds, BB folds

Turn: ($45.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $20, Hero folds

5 way pot... lots of SCs and PPs out there wasnt too crazy about the flop. Part of me thought he was just checking if his whatever pair was good on the turn but im not sure how to proceed here so i took the conservative route.
04-07-2008 , 11:00 PM
on this drawy board i think any 2 pair or set raises this flop. Villian could have any number of draws or 88, 99

call and bet any non 3,8,spade river if you are tight

(otherwise bet turn, or c/r turn, just dont fold)
04-08-2008 , 03:10 AM
i have no problem with this line
04-08-2008 , 03:32 AM
I'm pushing turn here. Like OBrian said, there are too many hands in his range that he might do this with that do not have you beat (88+, OESD, FD). Plus I think he would have raised this on the flop or bet more turn to protect his set or 2P hands on this drawy board.
04-08-2008 , 12:43 PM
I think c/r > c/c > c/f.

But I am not sure
04-08-2008 , 12:55 PM
This is an action flop. If you cbet you will get action. Know how you will respond before you make the bet.

The turn bet looks kinda bluffy/unsure, so I think there's some value in continuing to play. I don't have a problem with folding though.

If you're second-to-last to act I actually like checking the flop, as the last person is liable to bet with ATC and spring any traps that were set for you from EP, which should give you enough information to play the rest of the hand on autopilot. Stuck in the middle though, ugh.

      
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