Should I cbet in such spots against regs? What stats should I take into consideration? What about sizing?

I think when villain flats 4b he has KK+ or AK(like 90% of the time), am I right or do people flat something else as well?

BTN: $118.15
SB: $100.50
BB: $57.70
UTG: $107.00
Hero (MP): $100.00
CO: $96.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with Q Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $11, 2 folds, Hero raises to $22, BTN calls $11

Flop: ($45.50) 8 A 5 (2 players)

depends on the reg.

What stats should i take into consideration?
like - cbet against really bad regs who will flat with stupid hands and c/f against better regs?

prob c/c vs playmasters who flat 4bet to outplay you. c/f vs nitty types. really difficult to get a handle on someones 4bet calling range since it is super rare, i mean ive seen regs i thought were competent flat 76s here 100bb deep. idk how much of an argument can be made for betting to "take the pot down" considering how large the pot is and the likelhood of being bluffed and it being hard to continue if you check. doesnt seem right really but i mean taking down 50bb regardless of your hand doesnt seem terrible.

btw your sizing is a bit too small, there i a good chance they flatted weird hands because its a minraise. not to say thats bad if they are flatting crap, but you gave them good odds. make it like 25.

also is this a short FR table or 6max??? 6max i dont play often so flatting 4bets with like tens could be super standard there i have no idea(even tho to me that is clearly awful either way).

tbh id really like to hear more discussion on whether there is any merit to betting to win the pot in a spot like this when it is difficult to be a Vbet or a bluff. think about what happens in this spot OOP... you can

A) Cbet your entire range

B) Cbet a polarized range (Ax and air and check hands like QQ)

C) check your entire value range and Cbet air

C seems highly exploitable. so between A and B which seems like a better strategy in a vacuum?

the only reason why i don't like betting is that i think villain's range is KK+, AK.

FR

i used to think that too, until regs started flatting my 4bets and c/folding 8 high flops and K high flops. and ive seen regs flat the weirdest hands. so like my first post, depends on the reg.

i mean if his range is KK+, AK then obv easy c/f. im talking about what Cbet strategy to incorporate when you are unsure of his range.

you could also check your entire range

yea you could, not sure whether it is better to balance in an aggro or passive way tho. guess it depends on villain tendencies.

I would c/c, c/f unimproved here. Also, +1 on making the 4bet larger since you're OOP.

Because QQ /= KK In this spot with QQ, B vs non-play masters, A vs regs cuz we can make KK fold and we're never being bluffed

i meant as a general strategy, not in this specific case with QQ. what do you do here with AA, AK, KK, A4o, 99, 74s, JhTh?

I think in villains spot I would call any decent hand i chose to 3-bet when you only double the bet. 19/call on the flop seems ok. If you genuinely put him on a nitty range then just c/f, no big deal.

I usually just flat the 3-bet with queens from mp though.

are you seriously suggesting cbet/calling on this flop? why?

The low stack to pot ratio of 3-bet pots makes it such that it becomes very difficult to get away from hands, especially when draws are possible. If he has JJ or flatted 98s or something, chances are he doesn't fold it to a cbet. It's also pretty unlikely for people to flat 4bets with Ax unless its AQ (which you block). Bet/calling is probably pretty optimistic depending on your image and reads on villain, but its a reasonable line to take under some conditions.