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100NL FR Rush 250bb effective pf KK 100NL FR Rush 250bb effective pf KK

04-02-2010 , 04:04 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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BB: $58.65
UTG: $5.60
UTG+1: $94.00
UTG+2: $250.00
MP1: $40.00
MP2: $121.40
Hero (CO): $268.00
BTN: $46.00
SB: $184.25

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with K K
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13, 3 folds, UTG+2 raises to $250 all in


Villain was 4 tabling 100NL FR Rush (which is the max) and I would say with good certainty that he is a winning regular. I don't have significant reads on villain but he appeared completely competent and could play his hands well for value. When I 3b, he 4b jammed fairly quickly but it was not instant.

Are we fist pump stacking off here pf? What range of hands do we put him on? What % of that range is AA?

Note: Rush poker is obviously a vacuum to some extent, but I believe my reads here from playing so many hands with said villain are fairly accurate.
04-02-2010 , 04:11 PM
Snap fold, fistpump, call your best poker buddy and tell him you only lost 13bb in KK < AA.
04-02-2010 , 04:17 PM
call for misclick value
04-02-2010 , 04:24 PM
snap fold vs any reg
04-02-2010 , 04:27 PM
i'm not folding but i think it's bad that i'm not folding, i just dont' know what the fk he's 4bet jamming for 250bbs honestly...
04-02-2010 , 04:29 PM
Fwiw, villain's PTR shows him as a winning player up to 50NL FR, although these are not rush hands obviously. His sample on PTR at 100NL FR is extremely small and basically negligible. No sample for stakes higher than 100NL.
04-02-2010 , 05:34 PM
I hate it when guys do this but I fold in a heartbeat. What I like about rush no time to worry about it.
04-03-2010 , 04:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IcarusJam
i just dont' know what the fk he's 4bet jamming for 250bbs honestly...
A random 4-tabling 100NL player is thinking, "ZOMG we're 250 big blinds deep, and I can't possibly play AA post-flop, so IMMA JAM!"
04-03-2010 , 09:22 AM
he has KK too or maybe AA, i guess it's a fold since your both so deep... please say you called so we can know his cards ?
04-03-2010 , 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kos13
A random 4-tabling 100NL player is thinking, "ZOMG we're 250 big blinds deep, and I can't possibly play AA post-flop, so IMMA JAM!"
Imo, it could even be a good play. KK makes up a good chunk of Hero's three-betting range (prob ~20%). If Villain doesn't credit Hero with the ability to fold KK for any amount of money preflop, it's much better for him to just stick the money in now, rather than give Hero a chance to see a flop and dump his hand before the full 250 goes in.
04-03-2010 , 06:33 PM
If you can't fold here, don't play 250 bb deep.

Think about it, if villain does NOT have aces, he's risking 250bb to win a tiny pot to find out if we have aces. Thus, he has aces.
04-05-2010 , 12:20 AM
This is AA 99% of the time that he didn't misclick. Maybe 100%.
04-05-2010 , 10:53 PM
I folded fwiw, so no results.
04-05-2010 , 11:03 PM
ITS A TARP!!!!!!!!

      
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