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100nl facing flop rase tricky spot meh 100nl facing flop rase tricky spot meh

11-16-2011 , 09:32 AM
prob super standard but im curious what others say.

villain has only played about 20 hands hes playing 23/10 atm or similar stats to that.

no stats on post flop available.

is flatting the raise terrible here? i feel like i have decent equity vs his draws and Jx.

wanted to flat the raise and bet river if turn checks through

that seem decent plan or just b/f flop.

note i dont play this high took shot because 2 big losing players were sitting down.

CO: $63.35 (63.4 bb)
BTN: $100 (100 bb)
SB: $87.98 (88 bb)
BB: $55 (55 bb)
UTG+1: $123.87 (123.9 bb)
UTG+2: $139.65 (139.7 bb)
Hero (MP1): $100 (100 bb)
MP2: $41.80 (41.8 bb)
MP3: $151.85 (151.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q K
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $3, 4 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 7 J 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, MP3 raises to $9, Hero folds
11-16-2011 , 09:59 AM
yee, i like b/f, but ur sizing should be bigger imo.
11-16-2011 , 11:27 AM
Floating OOP against unknown with 4 clean outs is going to do wonders for your red line. Also if you cbet this flop, then you certainly need to make it bigger.
11-16-2011 , 11:41 AM
To be honest I don't even know if I like the cbet. As played, fold to the raise.

Why are we betting this flop? What are we trying to fold out (I'm assuming you're not betting for value)?
11-16-2011 , 11:47 AM
Cbet's pretty mandatory imo, we've got 2 overs and a nut-shot, we've got good equity against villains range when called but i agree with Xela about sizing.
11-16-2011 , 11:48 AM
i cbet because i thought he folds some smaller pp and some Ax

and i have some equity when called.

not 100% its good though just what i was thinking
11-16-2011 , 11:57 AM
lol super standard cbet
11-16-2011 , 11:58 AM
Super standard bet fold. Check folding is outrageously bad, calling flop and folding turn like a little bitch when u brick is also awful too.
11-16-2011 , 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RKi
Super standard bet fold. Check folding is outrageously bad, calling flop and folding turn like a little bitch when u brick is also awful too.
ck/fold is certainly not "outrageously bad" here
11-16-2011 , 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ecciz
ck/fold is certainly not "outrageously bad" here
Yes it is.

And i'd probably be floating if i had KQ of any other suit.
11-16-2011 , 01:22 PM
I bet/fold OOP, but probably check back IP and take the free card.
11-16-2011 , 02:15 PM
LOL @ thinking c/f is outrageously bad here. I don't think a b/f is that bad either (especially IF we had a backdoor flush draw), but it depends on your image and the villain.

I mean, the guy is a 23/10 whose range probably nails that flop. Sure, we can get him to fold out his 44 probably, but would he turn it into a bluff and bet it when you don't cbet?
11-16-2011 , 04:11 PM
I would mostly b/f this flop but I don't think c/f is bad vs this villain. I really don't know if villain folds anything worse (maybe some small PP) and he might float us with anything from gutshot to overpairs. I mean a lot of fish play fit or fold, but without that info I really don't think cbetting is mandatory.
11-16-2011 , 08:25 PM
If you're check folding a flop where you get a nut-shot and two overs, then why are you raising KQ in the first place? Just wait for AJTddd flop so u can tarp them?
11-16-2011 , 08:40 PM
Dunno what you are talking about, my flop cbet is well over 70% and I still don't think it is mandatory to cbet this flop vs unknown for reasons mentioned above. We should be also playing our opponent and I'd rather cbet KQ on flop texture that don't hit the fish range full on. Still would cbet here most of the time, but just saying...
11-17-2011 , 12:28 AM
just noticed typo in OP "rase" my bad

looking at fzlla looks like he continues on this flop with more than 60% of his range if he has SC broadway all pp A2s+ a90

if my sizing doesnt induce anything than it might be ok right?

appreciate replies thought it would turn out to be a lol gg gtfo thread
11-17-2011 , 12:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xela
Dunno what you are talking about, my flop cbet is well over 70% and I still don't think it is mandatory to cbet this flop vs unknown for reasons mentioned above. We should be also playing our opponent and I'd rather cbet KQ on flop texture that don't hit the fish range full on. Still would cbet here most of the time, but just saying...
This, except my flop cbet isn't 70%

      
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