Villain : 15/12/1.6AF, 2% 3b all of this over 855 hands
30%ATS, folds to flop c-bet 72%, folds to 3b 44%

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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UTG+2: $288.30
MP1: $171.85
MP2: $117.35
CO: $152.15
BTN: $106.00
SB: $107.00
BB: $237.55
UTG: $286.40
Hero (UTG+1): $116.55

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with A J
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $4, UTG+2 calls $4, 3 folds, BTN calls $4, 2 folds, UTG calls $3

Flop: ($17.50) A 4 8 (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $9, UTG+2 folds, BTN calls $9, UTG folds

Turn: ($35.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $16, Hero calls $16

River: ($67.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $30, Hero folds

fold city, there are like 0 draws on this flop and hes not gonna be value betting worse hardly ever so he would have to be turning something weird into a bluff

Meh I call now after taking your line, b/f turn tho. Tbh this is AK+ or air always. Reg is gonna try to push you off like QQ here so its close.

what on earth would make you think this is criminal???? incredibly standard fold once you miss your f draw. you beat nothing, and i doubt a 15/12 is going to be floating and then firing < 1/2 psb on two streets w a bluff here

lol 3 of us posted at exact same time, gg guys

so if he's gonna try to bluff push you off QQ why should you bet ever

Eh I wanna fold now tbh because its full ring and all the regs are nits. Everytime I call here because I'm underrepped I get shown AK+ and kidck myself.

You shouldent, depends on some things, if you have the right image you get called down by worse.

This. Shoulda just saved my breath.

exactly.

nb, with 4 players in the pot you should bet more on the flop imo, even although the board is dry

do not compute

I bet turn.

To get called by what exactly? It's not like 15/12's just go around and randomly call UTG raises with A9.

Check/calling turn is fine, river is prolly a fold in a vaccum.

This hands action + rush poker + full ring + nitty reg = fold. You got a bluff catcher bro.

Yes I know that probably we are way ahead/way behind. Probably we rarely get called by worse but also he rarely bet with worse if we check.

So it looks like exactly the same scenario in both ways but if we check-call and hit our flush then hard to get paid off. Also if board pairs + flushes on the river or we totally miss it's probably fold then but HE CAN bet worse/bluff. So we do more mistakes, if we check IMO.

But if we bet and get called then probably our flush get paid off. Also if we check he would check back most of the time and bets with hand what we beat.

In position I would check back but out of position I like betting more than checking.

Problem is we're gonna get raised if he has a strong hand. If he has like AQ/AK it prolly doesn't matter if we bet or check, but if he has something better it would be catastrophical for our hand.

I think vs AQ/AK it's better to bet because that way our flush is more disguised. I understand, we don't want to fold our good equity hand vs stronger hands and then c/c vs monsters is better.

But I can't see lots of monster hands here, only sets but it's small part of his range :[

why not bet turn? he has put you on the underpair (TT-KK) because of your check OTT and is trying to push you off the best hand. could be a better hand as well, but given how you played it......

Why would he put he put him on an under pair? He CB a A high flop 4 handed.

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Also, bet turn.