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12-16-2007 , 11:10 AM
Poker Stars $1.00/$2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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UTG+1: $283.75
Hero (UTG+2): $220.35
MP1: $283.10
MP2: $181.00
CO: $539.35
BTN: $312.65
SB: $121.55
BB: $95.65
UTG: $125.45

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+2 with T J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 6 folds, UTG+1 calls $8

Flop: ($23.00) K 9 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $4, Hero raises to $20, UTG+1 calls $16

Turn: ($63.00) J (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $40

here I don't have much of a read on the player, he seems weak and I felt reasonably sure he wasn't strong with the flop lead, once he calls he likely has something but I think its still pretty wide

on the turn I hit a pair, and now the plan is trying to extract from weaker pairs, I'm still undecided if I like betting or checking and making decsions on the river, I think this player isn't super likely to bluff the river
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12-16-2007 , 03:14 PM
I'm really uncertain here. I think you're line is fine. I also think you could wait and raise a small turn bet as well. This let's you draw cheaply too. I'd like using my position a little more here by letting the play develop more fully and cheaply and then using the info to make a better decision.
12-16-2007 , 03:30 PM
Stay consistent with a flopped big hand. Bet turn and check behind on the river if you don't hit.
12-16-2007 , 03:35 PM
I think this is fine and I'd pretty much always raise the weak flop donk. I like the bet sizing but I might make it a little bit bigger on the flop. Turn is good as long as youre checking any river that doesnt improve you.
12-16-2007 , 03:48 PM
What he said. The weak flop donk is usually either a draw or some trashy made hand. On rare occasion, a monster. You're ahead of his range so I like the turn bet and who knows he may actually be able to fold K-rag. I would check it through on river too because if he calls your turn bet you see something like K8 here a lot.
12-16-2007 , 04:06 PM
Turn bet as a value-bet seems silly. And as a bluff as well, ESPECIALLY if you're not betting the river. I think if you bet and get called, you have to bluff river as you are almost certainly beat. I don't really see 9x calling down too often here. Just check behind on the turn and VB river if you're confident you have the best of it. The only cards you really care about seeing are 9, T, and A.
12-16-2007 , 04:55 PM
I check that turn. IME, Kx is going nowhere, and 9x is often folding.
12-16-2007 , 06:07 PM
I like the turn bet...if you raised the flop you just gotta man up and see if we can take it here on the turn. I doubt you're winning a showdown so checking on the turn gives up the initiative. He'll c/c or bet the riv most likely anyway
12-16-2007 , 06:45 PM
flop is fine. but im knocking the turn often. i dont see this guy folding Kx here. and we get no value on hands we are ahead of. take the knock for the free card. possibly VB (unimproved, obvi) river if checkd to again cuz ur check will most likely widen his calling range up to 9x
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