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10-12-2015 , 10:44 AM
Improved, but I still see the right elbow up there looking like a baseball swing. I agree with an earlier statement on shoulders moving early. Get that right elbow down and in, and I bet that would help with the shoulders. Should keep you behind the ball more too which should also get you some yards with driver.
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10-12-2015 , 10:45 AM
Still a ****ing nice looking swing though.
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10-12-2015 , 11:24 AM
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Anyone feel like his spine angle is too upright? how many pros start with their chest directly over their knees/feet?
Maybe not spine angle but he does seem to be back too far. Like his butt is back too far. I'm guessing it's a balance issue from coming forward and over the top he would fall forward otherwise. Good catch tho, I'm not sure what to say about it other than maybe fixing the swing might fix the balance?
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10-12-2015 , 02:30 PM
Just to add to what I said before. Check out these pics. I took your swing and circled your hands on your down swing so you can see the path they take and compared that to Rory's hand path on the way down so you can see where they should be going. This is to give you an idea of what you are trying to accomplish. You can't just try to make your hands do this though, it won't work. You need to go back and read some of the suggestions I made earlier to make room for your hands to do this. (turn your hips instead of slide, etc...) The biggest thing besides your hips sliding is that you are starting your downswing by pulling with your left shoulder I think. You need to start with the hips and let the hands and arms fall first. Then turn the shoulders.




Then I want you to notice in these pics you and Rory are in about the same position in your downswing, but notice your club head is almost about to hit the ground already and Rory's shaft is still parallel to the ground. This is the wrist cock I was talking about. You are losing massive amounts of power here because you haven't cocked your wrists and kept that tight angle between your club shaft and your right forearm.


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10-12-2015 , 03:50 PM
Played 9 holes with the misses. She might post pics (of herself) to keep this thread going. Still have a slight fade but power has increased significantly. Today was with no range warm up but tomorrow I'm gonna hit the range first to dial it in. Hip rotation has improved dramatically. I no longer sway, at least not nearly as much. Rory level lag is so ridiculous that attaining that any time soon seems like a stretch.
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10-12-2015 , 04:15 PM
Check your grip to help with fade. Maybe try turning your right hand counter-clockise just a touch.
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10-12-2015 , 04:59 PM
Agreed. Move your right thumb off the top of the shaft. It should be on the left side. This will help cock the wrists. I didn't want to bring up the grip thing yet because changing that is the most uncomfortable feeling and usually takes the most repetition to get used to. Glad you're hitting it better and Rory lag is ridiculous but yours is the opposite. Eventually creating more lag will help you hit it further. You're a strong dude so with a good swing I'd think 165 yards would be the bottom end of your range with a 7 iron.
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10-12-2015 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SlamminP
Played 9 holes with the misses. She might post pics (of herself) to keep this thread going. Still have a slight fade but power has increased significantly. Today was with no range warm up but tomorrow I'm gonna hit the range first to dial it in. Hip rotation has improved dramatically. I no longer sway, at least not nearly as much. Rory level lag is so ridiculous that attaining that any time soon seems like a stretch.
he isn't talking about Rorys lag, he is talking about the path of his hands

or at least I think he was may have read it wrong
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10-12-2015 , 10:32 PM
Try throwing the club at our right foot.
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10-13-2015 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
I couldn't see it from the down the line but from face on it doesn't look like you fully turn your waist back just your shoulders and your weight gets outside your right foot. From there you are dead and you save it by coming over and clearing your hips really athletically and well. But try to find a face on of a tour pro and look at top of your backswing positions.
You can't even consider some of the other ideas until this is addressed. Sadly, DD nailed it here and it went completely unnoticed. You must correct the weight shift first. I'm not sure if you are trying to maintain the bend in your trail leg in the backswing, but you need to let it float a little more. You actually bend your leg more into the backswing and then let teh weight get to the outside of your foot.

From there you have no choice but to initiate the downswing somewhere other than with the lower body. You aren't in an athletic position to "go" from.

Let the trail leg straighten a bit while you load your weight into the inside of that foot. Feel as though your trail foot is screwing into the ground clockwise while the weight loads into it. Then start the downswing by feeling that foot and weight uncoil.

You can't begin to think about flat left wrist or anything else until you address that. If you get your left wrist flat and don't have the corresponding body mechanics you will hit it all over the lot.

I win...what do I win?
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10-13-2015 , 01:24 PM
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I win...what do I win?
You don't win jack cos it wasn't your idea and I already fixed it =D
Jk thanks for the input and yes, what you were discussing was one of my major problems. Shot 82 today and got my handicap to 8.8.
I sense massive improvements in my swing now that I've gotten used to the adjustments. Will post video shortly.
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10-13-2015 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit
I'd think 165 yards would be the bottom end of your range with a 7 iron.
165 is my average with a 7 iron. Is that a brag?
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10-13-2015 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SlamminP
165 is my average with a 7 iron. Is that a brag?
Ha. No, I hit my 7 165 and you're bigger/stronger than me. For you 165 should be minimum. If you're hitting it 165 now, just imagine what it'd be if you got that swing in shape. You're obviously on track with ideas. GL
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10-13-2015 , 02:41 PM
My older brother just got his first hole in one with a 7-iron from 186. He's about 5'8" and 160 soaking wet.
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10-13-2015 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit
Ha. No, I hit my 7 165 and you're bigger/stronger than me. For you 165 should be minimum. If you're hitting it 165 now, just imagine what it'd be if you got that swing in shape. You're obviously on track with ideas. GL
What's the loft on your 7 iron? Mine's 34.
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10-13-2015 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerDharma
My older brother just got his first hole in one with a 7-iron from 186. He's about 5'8" and 160 soaking wet.
Golfsmith says 7-iron shots 165 to 180 yards average for PGA tour pros. I am skeptical your bro hits 186 clean with no wind unless his trajectory is very low.
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10-13-2015 , 06:16 PM
Some ppl deloft the club more than others at impact. Makes it possible to hit irons farther. My 7 is 33*
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10-14-2015 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SlamminP
Golfsmith says 7-iron shots 165 to 180 yards average for PGA tour pros. I am skeptical your bro hits 186 clean with no wind unless his trajectory is very low.
Definitely not his norm. He said he had to stand on it. Prolly had some wind help as well.
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10-21-2015 , 02:49 PM
New video from today with the driver. I am crushing it clubhead speed wise (maxed at 122 today) but my drives are ballooning with too much backspin >4000 rpm so I am failing to break 300 yards. Teeing down helped a bit but its still a problem. Launch angle is also a couple degrees too high at around 15. My driver is a 10.5 SLDR that I have down at 9 degrees and the shaft is a fujikura motore speeder 6.3 TP X flex. I got optimal spin with this shaft last summer but something happened. I'm hitting it 10 mph faster this summer that may be it but I don't think so. I still have the lateral movement problem (although it has improved) which might also be causing the backspin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbPs0VMKewE
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10-21-2015 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SlamminP
New video from today with the driver. I am crushing it clubhead speed wise (maxed at 122 today) but my drives are ballooning with too much backspin >4000 rpm so I am failing to break 300 yards. Teeing down helped a bit but its still a problem. Launch angle is also a couple degrees too high at around 15. My driver is a 10.5 SLDR that I have down at 9 degrees and the shaft is a fujikura motore speeder 6.3 TP X flex. I got optimal spin with this shaft last summer but something happened. I'm hitting it 10 mph faster this summer that may be it but I don't think so. I still have the lateral movement problem (although it has improved) which might also be causing the backspin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbPs0VMKewE
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10-21-2015 , 11:59 PM
What is your ball speed? That is more important. Pretty sure the SLDR spins more on the lower half of the club. Plus adjusting that much adds spin I think.
Your launch angle isn't too high, could even go a touch higher.

play with this thing

https://flightscope.com/products/trajectory-optimizer/

As for the swing your weight looks like it is way too far on the heels
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10-22-2015 , 03:38 AM
Can you post a full speed video? I can't believe that action is getting 122 MPH clubhead speed, no offense. That's a pretty big number and I simply don't see it from those positions. Lower body action is generating some speed, but the upper body just doesn't look like that number.

I just want to make sure you are on a reasonable machine before you start worrying about spin rates if it can't even calculate clubhead speed.

Looks nice otherwise.
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10-22-2015 , 04:42 AM
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Can you post a full speed video? I can't believe that action is getting 122 MPH clubhead speed, no offense. That's a pretty big number and I simply don't see it from those positions. Lower body action is generating some speed, but the upper body just doesn't look like that number.

I just want to make sure you are on a reasonable machine before you start worrying about spin rates if it can't even calculate clubhead speed.

Looks nice otherwise.
Here is full speed. Its possible that the machine is crap. It gives me 10 yards extra on my 7-9 irons. I'll be going to another brand one in November so we'll see if the numbers hold up. I'm not hitting less than 110 though that's been confirmed on previous summers.

Just checked they are actually both Sports Coach simulators. Is this brand reliable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmEi...ature=youtu.be
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10-22-2015 , 04:57 AM
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What is your ball speed? That is more important. Pretty sure the SLDR spins more on the lower half of the club. Plus adjusting that much adds spin I think.
Your launch angle isn't too high, could even go a touch higher.
I bought the SLDR because it's smash factor was the best out of several brands like Cobra and Callaway. I was getting 1.45 pretty consistently. So ball speed on a perfect shot would be about 170.
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10-22-2015 , 04:59 AM
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I can't believe that action is getting 122 MPH clubhead speed, no offense. That's a pretty big number and I simply don't see it from those positions. Lower body action is generating some speed, but the upper body just doesn't look like that number.
How do you think I could generate more speed with my upper body? Lag?
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