I will be selling my extra 2ball belly putter, 45.5" with a pistol ping belly grip, if anyone's interested.

[QUOTE= Jerry was telling him when he would warm up on the green, he would go from end to end of the green(kind of like a fringe lag drill) but he would try to hook the crap out of the putt by rolling the putter face thru impact, king of like what you do with a well struck iron shot(right?)[/QUOTE]

You can add a small hook spin to get a putt to travel through grass better, say 5-10 yards of fairway etc.

On a side not I found out I was hitting a 35" putter and needed a 37" at a Golfsmith fitting. Can't wait to see if I can gain a stroke or so with a new putter.

nope

a few fundamentals that make putting the strongest part of my game

1.) eyes behind the ball (most people think their eyes are behind ball but in reality they are wayyy more forward than they think)

2.) discipline to keep head planted down, exaggerate this and have the mental toughness to wait for the sound of the ball hitting the bottom of the cup....just like hitting any club in the bag, the putter has a sweet spot and the way to connect with the sweet spot is keeping your head buried

3.) obv zero wrist action, just rock the shoulders

4.) never practice the same putt twice, cuz you'll never have that luxury on the course...move the ball around while practicing, even if it's only a foot or two

5.) hustle hard or hustle home

Don't forgot to stand different distances from the ball at address.

Aaron Baddley is a perfect example of someone who is an excellent putter who stands with the ball a decent amount further away from his body than the average player.

Someone who may have trouble with their stroke might find they actually have a naturally solid stroke when their arms are in the ideal position for their body.

recommended putting arc?

chalk line works really well

i sort of use metronome idea. similar time for all putts, just the blade goes further on longer putts so faster. really works but took some time

playing less break and hitting putts harder inside 20 feet. reading stuff on pga tour, these guys jam putts and also seem to debate which part of cup to aim at. i was centre cup, edge or outside. they seem to go right or left center alot.

if you can't figure break, go straightvwith confidence

pelz is right high handicappers underread break but i think that's longer putts

antway, i'm going harder with alot less break amd it's working so far

I work really hard on being stable with my body and having my eyes directly over the ball.

I putt with an open stance, I don't think you'll see any pros doing it but works for me. I see the line much better and releasing the putter head feels better

Good points. Some of the belly putters naturally promote being further away from the swing. I think a belly putter will be best for me because of that and because it should be mostly a matter of ball position when I get used to it. The big advantage is having a consistent release point and stroke, which is why a lot of people think they should be banned. Until that day I'll go with whatever helps me the most. I've also heard that they can help with your stroke with a normal putter as well.

I think it was Brainy Baird (spelling?) who putted with a very open stance for a long, long time.

I use the MSIII from putting arc.

is there much of a diff between the three? sorry im super nittin it up, but its tiltign to pay 100$ for a chunk of wood or w/e

I use a coffee table w / about 2" of room under it. The edges are almost dead straight and by setting up as if the leg is the ball and hitting into it, I can feel if my grip is correct or too weak or too strong.

Want to learn to roll it pure? Simple. Draw a line on your ball with a black marker or use a striped range ball to practice with on the putting green.

Place the ball on the green or your carpet so that the line around the ball is perpendicular to the ground. The object is to get the ball rolling end-over-end purely. If you accomplish this goal the line on the ball will appear to be a solid stripe along the line your ball travels.

I recommend trying this without putting toward a hole or any target at first. Until you can roll the ball end-over-end, your target won't matter. Once you can roll it pure, only then start using the line on your ball as an alignment aid. The primary benefit is the feedback you get.

If you can roll it purely and know when you roll it purely, then putting is down to reading greens. You'll know you've misread a putt if it rolls purely and doesn't go in imediately. On the other hand, you'll also know when you've made a lucky putt. Those times you miss-it-in will be obvious if you use the line to aid your alighnment on the course.

I use the MSIII. The Deluxe is really nice, but the MSIII is all you need.

The T3 is significantly smaller than the MSIII, so you are limited on the length of the putt you can use it for. That said, 80% of the time I am using the MSIII I could be using the T3.

I wouldn't even call his stance open (it was actually closed but i get what you mean), he basically putted everything like it was a tap in, when you just address the ball with one foot

Briny putted with a stance as closed as you can get. Literally as closed as possible.
This is ok-ish. There are quite a few factors that can make a ball not roll end over end besides just stroke. Improper lie/loft being the main two.

But as far as you will know if you miss read the putt if it doesn’t go in, well that is assuming that you have aligned the putter correctly at your obviously correctly read green. Most people don’t line up very well and their stroke has built in compensations for that. Hell, most Tour pros don’t line up very well and their stroke compensates. Some have a built in compensation to offset a poor roll – Billy Mayfair.

Wow. I remember cringing whenever Billy Mayfair was in contention and they'd show that stroke of his on television. I couldn't watch it.

I've never been fit for a putter and yet I can make my ball roll end-over-end. Maybe I got lucky and just found an off the shelf model that works. However, I can tell when I've put some cut or hook or when I've missed the sweetspot on my putter using a line on my ball.

To me putting and playing pool are somewhat similar. The simpleist approach is the most consistant. In pool the easiest shot to hit consistantly is one with natural roll, in other words no English is applied to the cue ball. I like that idea carried over to putting.

Over the years, I've played scrambles with plenty of really bad putters. Some of these players put so much side-spin on the ball that watching their putts break told me little about the true line of the putt.

puttingzone.com Check it out, its free. My new thing I am doing is just putting the ball on a good forward roll and trying to get the putter head to release through the ball. Sometimes in an attempt to make putts we don't release the putter enough ie follow through.

puttingzone.com is nice, check it out.

I cut my putter down from 34" to 30", just making sure my eyes were over the ball properly. Yes, it made the putter a little heavy.. but I like a heavier putter as it is.

First of all, get fit. Make sure your toe isn't in the air at all, you will push the ball more.

I tried three grips. Myself being lefty, I tried the standard left hand low grip. Didn't work. I tried the claw grip... That worked quiet well. You'd be surprised! I also, now am using a unique grip that I've picked up where my thumbs are literally right next to each other firmly grasping the grip. (I have a midsized Winn Pistol grip). It's been working out really well.

Here is a great putting tip for all you putters out there. Take the club back with the main pressure points on both thumbs. Keeps your hands working together.

Correct me if I'm wrong and backwards because I've been drinking at it's late-morning, but wouldn't cutting it down make it lighter, not only overall, but also with regard to swing weight?

I should add that I'm not trying to be negative. I'm actually of the mindset that most people use putters that are too long for them.

Yeah in general most people use putters too long, but customized putters can fix all that also would help with weight distribution and grip.

many topics about putting lately

when I finally took 'pelz putting tutor' to the practice green I noticed that 80% of my putts are pushes need to work hard on it

good thing is that since I started doing a lot of 5footers, 3footers look so much easier