i think this is a perfectly fine and valid reason.

I agree. Banning him because he's creating a competitor would be lame, but asking him to sit out a year to avoid a circus is pretty reasonable.

note the R&A wording "when circumstances allow"

a bit cryptic

purposefully cryptic

yes, purposefully cryptic and a total copout. Again, this is another Open tournament. Not PGA. Past champions should not be excluded because they are involved with a new tour. It is plain shitty, but totally expected.

Him not being there isn't going to eliminate the circus. The questions will just change from "why is he here?" to "why isn't he here?"

They could ban every LIV golfer and there's still going to be a LIV circus.

Hopefully by this time next year the angry mob has moved onto something else, the current fracturing of golf is repaired and all tours and players co-exist, make more money while growing the game.

PHIL BIO

The 40 million gambling losses is referenced while discussing his taxes and says it in such a way that my read is the 40 mill is the total losses on the returns for the five years in question, which would be far, far from a net loss. It did it exactly the way you would if you wanted to sensationally splash the 40 million figure and leave out the salient other details. Meh.

He did sell his beloved Gulfstream jet a few years ago for 40 mill, which could be a money pinch, but that could well be going liquid with that as his travel was slowing down and for 1 mill or so could share jet for the rest of his life.

He got stiffed by a Detroit bookie for half a mill. Has to be a bytch to think you've landed a whale and it turns up steam. No doubt won tens of mills bearding while also blowing off to Walters on the side.

Really good read and character study. Only drawback it was final edited when it looked like the Saudi thing had collapsed so it came up short on that subject.

Wonder how much longer PGA sponsors are going to allow some of the top players in the world be banned from playing.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting the Justice Department is investigating the PGA Tour for anti-trust violations regarding LIV.

Just what everybody needs, the suits getting involved in golf.

nothing like the DOJ carrying MBS' water

smh

America falling further down the shttr. not pretty watching an empire crumble

As advertised. It's monopolistic undercutting slash discriminatory ... or close to it.

Same thing happened in 1994 when Greg Norman was trying to launch the World Golf Tour. The FTC dropped the probe without taking any action.

This is the reason Norman despises the PGA Tour and will do anything to harm it.

I suspect we see a bunch more names after the Open. I honestly don't think most of these guys just want to play Liv from now on. At least not the top players - some of the old guys like Westwood and Pat Perez may be fine with it.

What they want, is the big Liv payday while still being able to play the bigger PGA Tour events and of course the majors. In other words have their cake and eat it too.

My guess is that they are making a calculated wager that, if enough top players make the jump, the PGA will have no choice but to make some arrangement with them to let them play Tour events as well. Either that or hope the litigation goes in their favor. If neither of those things happen I guess they will have their money and lots of free time to console themselves with.

Regardless, it's odd to think that a guy like Bryson may never play on the PGA Tour again.

Matsuyama would be a massive get. That is actually a big deal.

More players are for sure going to go over but I imagine there are a bunch of players waiting for legal rulings.

And it doesn't seem like the LIV tour is going anywhere. The Saudis don't seem to care about a totally unsustainable business model since they can just burn cash. I imagine some of the younger players can just wait it out. Ball out for a year or two on the PGA and sign a huge contract.

LIV has been absolutely amazing for those younger guys who were going scrape by and/or bounce around the korn ferry - they are all getting big chances as a result of this

PGA banning guys who play LIV is great for golfers, those who go over will make more money in a few years at LIV than they'd over their entire career in the PGA and that opens up doors for younger guys on the borders to go from playing 2-3 tour events a year to being a regular and having that card - even more so without all the top guys around, not just cashing but winning also significantly easier now too

PGA needs to come to terms with LIV, that is all there is too it. They loved being a monopoly, but times change.

I get the sentiment about not putting a stain or something on the 150th anniversary, but does that mean, for their own benefit of realizing this, the rights of all other human beings disappear?

Say there is a bicentennial celebration of independence for our country and some brand of unpopular renegades are scheduling a demonstration. Do you get to say: "Nope. your rights are revoked we want harmony here. We don't want to hurt our celebration at all."

Seems very dubious.

It’s the PGA Tour’s show and by paying membership dues you agree to play by their rules. I doubt that’s going to change any time soon. If push comes to shove the legal action will take a long time.

Likewise, the R&A runs the Open Championship, they can invite or not invite whoever they want to the festivities. I don’t hear anybody up in arms because Open champ Johnny Miller wasn’t there.

what do you say you and me go out and crash every private party we can.

I think all this is just shitty. They don't care about the sport or the tradition or anything else but their own greed. Golf was always supposed to be better than that, but of course it never was. As a fan, it pisses me off. I don't love the LIV, but the PGA can take a hike. So can the Open. I just hope my home town tournament, The Masters, does the right thing and I think they will. That is the ultimate tournament, in any case, although I always had the Open as second. US Open thing and I never gave a crap about PGA or FedEx Cup crap.

with all due respect, i think you contradict yourself more than twice there.

Bryson DeChambeau's Bridgestone sponsorship relationship halted amid his involvement in Saudi-backed LIV Golf tour

first manufacturer i've seen end a relationship with a LIVtard

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id...-liv-golf-tour

poulter booed at Open

#YLTSI