Presidents cup record I think is 24-15-1 and his Ryder cup is 13-17-3. If we combine these he is 37-32-4 which is still a winning record. And like someone previously said, it isnt fair to Tiger bashing his Ryder Cup Record when Euros whoop us what seems to be every single year

So I picked 4 long shots to win the open, my small bets didn't pan out like 50-1 shots normally won't. So what?

You TW fagboys butthurt from losing your wads of cash again?

Lol no one bet a ton on Tiger winning this, however still pretty sure if you had bet on Tiger every single start of his career you are still up $, let that sink in for a second.

But the problem with you is that you have come in here and acted like you knew it all but spewed off a bunch of incorrect information and this sub-forum isnt too friendly towards people who act like this. If you are a bad golfer on top of this just prepared to be exiled at some point (see ARC)

Lol wtf you are clearly a jackass BYN. I'm super happy to shoot 85 on the 4 times I play a year. I OBV suck at golf, ban me

You and tigr GOATS just live in the past and that comes through in all ur last few posts. His PC record is fairly irrelevant

Lol I dont have any say in banning people but people get sick of hearing 20 handicaps talk like they are experts on the subject.

Presidents Cup is very relevant as it is pretty much the same format. How would this be irrelevant? Because the player are different? Um no.

Tiger fans dont need to live in the past. He has won more than anyone in the last 2 years.... 5 win season (3 being big tourneys including the Players) in 2013 and player of the year. He is still very much relevant.

You are just a hater and have shown that in your first post by trying to say he was hated in the locker room and that the players clearly do not like him. In the end it comes down to the Tiger haters spewing off nonsense incorrect opinions on him while Tiger fans give all sorts of solid statistics and numbers showing why Tiger is still relevant and the GOAT.

You mean the meaningless hole after the Ryder Cup was decided while Woods stood in the fairway? Lololololok

Implying he hasn't shown anY "clutch" moments since 2008 is really dumb coming from you but then again not surprising.

So even if someone is a better player right now, youre going to ignore that and pick Woods .....because he was {once apon a time} better than everyone?

Solid logic. Maybe Americas obsession with winners/history is part of the reason Europe has been whooping yr azz

He has won more than anyone in the last 2 years....easy pick. Would you like to bet that he is a captains pick? You pick the amount.

Time to ban the "fagboys" guy

No thanks. I've taken a bath recently on the open and the World Cup. I'm sticking to poker for awhile. I only donk bet major events as a breakable rule

Your prob right he will be picked, is it the best thing for the TEAM though? I think this is a vg question but you think it's slam dunk.

It wasn't meaningless to Tiger and the rest of team USA. Tiger is proud, he wants to win that point. He did not. USA wanted to save a little face and tie the match. They did not. I vividly remember the broadcast, everybody was shocked.

And I'm in no way implying he hasn't shown any clutch moments, he has. But these days in clutch moments he's no better than 50/50. In the old days he was always money. Always. That was truly amazing.

But I gotta thank you for one thing, it was nice that the majority of your Open posts were in the SE thread and not here. Hoping you keep that up.

BO

BYN, if Tiger finishes in the bottom half of the field at Firestone and then misses the cut at the PGA, do you still think he gets picked?

I think that the worst case scenario is if he finishes 20-30th in both events. Decent play but certainly nothing special. That would make Tom's choice a complete nightmare.

BO

Tiger did concede Molinari's 3 footer on that hole so its not like he REALLY wanted to win it. I mean Im sure he didnt try and miss but it was still a 100% meaningless putt in terms of where the cup was going.

I think Tiger gets picked regardless of what happens this season unless he tells Tom to not pick him. I think we see him play well though in the next few events

Hey Bo instead of your standard flapping of the gums why don't you back it up with either A) responding to the bet BYK offered or B) politely declining before you actually reference him by name in a post? Seems kind of a dick move to try to continue to have the discussion you are with him if you aren't going to put up. You're trying to play nice with him now as well because you've always been too much of a pussy to ever back up a damn thing you say.

Your last post directed at me can't be taken seriously, you're lying about those events for whatever reason.

He did decline, he said he would rather wait until after the PGA

BYN and I are having a good, civil discussion about all this. Something that is impossible with you. Go troll in SE please.

BO

So if Tiger is only "50/50" in all-important clutch moments, I'd love to get a chart of clutch percentages for his potential replacements.

I think he should pick both and play Tiger and Reed as a team since Reed has been practicing with TW and idolizes him so much

No one is trolling BO far from it. Reed would be an interesting pair for Tiger, atleast you assume the moment wouldn't bother him. If Phil and Keegan both don't qualify though it would be tough from my end to split what has been a successful duo up. Watson going to have some real tough decisions to make if things don't shake out more clearly in the upcoming weeks.

The main point I am making also is if the player selected does not make the Fed Ex cup he just does not get to play any competitive golf till the Ryder Cup. Correct me if I am wrong all the other players you mentioned in your top 5 will.

If tiger was super serious about earning his way in why not play all the last 4 events. I know its 5 but not including the RBC as a little late though I think they would welcome him

Personally, I don't think Reed gets picked, he just hasn't been playing well as of late. If he plays well the next month he'll make it on his own.

IMO, the obvious pairing for Tiger would be Speith.

Phil really needs to make it on points, would free up a ton of other opportunities. Then you pick Keegan and pair them together, assuming of course Keegan doesn't make it on his own as well. If both Phil and Keegan fall short on points, it's going to make picking Tiger very difficult.

BO

Tiger gets picked over Phil and Keegan Id think. Hoping Reed doesnt make the team and doesnt get picked.

Curious to know why you think Spieth would be a good pairing for him?

I think Phil gets picked over Tiger, he's (currently) playing better, is way ahead of him on points, and has played in more of these events. I can't think of a non-injury scenario where Phil doesn't get picked, can't say the same about Tiger.

Tiger could mentor Speith through his first Ryder Cup, but I just think they are very similar on the course emotionally. Just think of the reaction if those two spark plugs get fired up. It would be like Phil and Keegan only magnified many times over.

Assuming Stricker isn't involved, if Tiger makes it I'd say it's a near guarantee his first match will be with Speith as a partner.

BO

If Tiger doesn't play well in his next 2 tournaments I think Watson has the balls not to pick him: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...-28529327.html

Three captains picks this year tho.

Agree on the TW/Spieth pairing, and just no way I'd ever pick Reed.