Let's be honest, no one would remember or care if Gillis won this event 6 months from now. The casual viewer isn't turned on by the journeyman story.

Tom Gillis would. In 5 years Jordan will not remember or care about winning this event, but I bet Tom Gillis would.

Can someone tell me which good players on tour play mainly a fade as their primary shot please. Friend and I were discussing this.

That'd be a long list.

I might be wrong but I believe the list of people who draw the ball would be shorter.

pretty sure you are correct

For sure it would.

I've been watching a bunch of protracer compilation videos on YouTube lately and it struck me as odd the number of players that hit draws,particularly with their irons. I would have thought more players would be hitting fades, but I didn't find many that were. The users name is Christophermtl I believe

Whether or not casualfan would remember it six months from now is meaningless to me. I'd hardly remember it myself. Doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a neat story for one day.

Very true. And they'd make it a story for more than one day, what with the other exemptions he'd get (Masters, etc). Just for how much it means to that guy, I personally don't see how you root against him.

No laying up

Is that the one where John Daly just yells at Zach Johnson for an hour?

Because he was against the new GOAT Spieth. I wasnt rooting against him though and thought it would be neat and great for the guy. Was just rooting for Spieth to win more. Gillis seems like a good dude

Well there's certainly nothing wrong about rooting for SPIETH so I can appreciate the dilemma.

Fair enough.

Not rooting for Gillis last week is super weird. It would be the defining moment of his career, a life-changer at the age of 46. For Spieth, it will be an after-thought, maybe even I shouldn't have played that event if he doesn't win this week.

And I'm 27. Nothing to do with age.

Agreed - this isn't even about favourite players. If something means a huge deal to one person and means a lot less to another, it seems strange to hope the guy who needs it far less should get it (given you don't have other reasons to dislike one of them or you have bets or whatever riding on the outcome).

Obviously not saying that Spieth doesn't care if he wins or not, but compared to what it would mean to Gillis, Spieth picking up another 'minor' tourneywin in what will be a ton of them over his career is pretty insignificant.

Off topic a bit but... whatever happened to the Skins Game? I used to love watching that back in the day.

Great question. Used to love that too. Maybe the guys make so much money it doesn't matter now. Would love to see an amateur celebrity skins game. MJ vs Michael Phelps or something like that.

Was probably cancelled because nobody wanted to play Freddie Couples anymore

Interest was gone, players originally loved it because it was free money at a time where money didn't grow on trees in golf. But then it became tough to get players interested. TV ratings were terrible as well. Just an excellent idea back in the day that ran it's course.

BO

Tell that to Tiger who is probably not likely to pass Snead when most people thought it was a mortal lock.

I think Tiger will get Sneads record and I think Tiger thinks so too. If he cares about that record and thinks he's getting desperate then he'd play a lot more "minor" tournaments to maximize his chances of getting there (which, if his body permits, he obv should do whether he cares about the record or not at this point).

I think the only record that really matters to Tiger anymore is Jacks.

Either way, I'm fairly certain Tiger doesn't sit around thinking about whatever tournament he may have won or lost to some "random nobody" who got, or may have gotten, their only win when he thinks about getting Sneads record.

The difference between 0 and 1 is much greater than that between 78 and 79 in this case.

A question about getting the "good draw". We all know that in most tournaments there will be some advantage to having the Thurs morning/Fri aft draw versus the Thurs aft/fri morning draw or vice-versa.

I was wondering if anyone knows whether any research was done to see what % of time the winner comes from the good side of the draw? I guess one would also have to factor in how significant the advantage was. If one draw was only 0.2 strokes lower than the other, than it would probably not factor into who won.

It the difference was a stroke or more, and then things were filtered from that data, if would be neat to see what % of the time the winner came from the good draw. And then see how this changes if the draw advantage was 1.5 strokes, or 2+ strokes (even though these would be rare occasions.)

Thoughts?

Interesting question. I've also wondered if it matters the leaders are in the last (afternoon) groups on Sat/Sun and often have to deal with more wind and drier/faster greens full of spike marks.