Did they show any of Aoki's shots, because they sure aren't showing many of KJ's unless it's above average? The only way I could tell if he hit it close was if he had his putter out while Tiger was chipping on 15, and even then I didn't know if he reached it in 2 or or 3.

Obviously I have money on him lol!

lol, this will be a phold for the ages. i cant wait

Well my Tiger/Phil pairing didn't pan out. I got Phil winning it though. Phil's shortgame is better than Westwood's, and the short game will be the difference. Not to mention the tournament tends to favor the person who is on fire (Phil) over the guy who has been steady (Lee). That is my prediction.

while i hope this doesn't happen, i am somewhat interested in seeing what an "ultra nitty" BO looks like.

and a fine compromise for this situation would be to put a small picture-in-picture box up while Tiger is walking to the scorer's tent. (Tiger on the big screen obv)

+1.

There were several spots where I was thinking "this is obviously taped," then they didn't acknowledge it was taped, and I was left sort of wondering about the ethics of it.

I mean, I don't think it matters THAT much, but I do think they need to mention when it is tape.

and Tiger shoots 63 to win by 3

(hopefully gobbling up almost all of the tv coverage so the ultra nitty BO still makes an appearance.)

but seriously, phil carding a bogey on 17 yesterday is really the only thing giving me hope unless Tiger does shoot something crazy.

i'd say less than 10/100 times either Westwood or Phil won't get to -15. i grabbed that number out of my ass but the point is one of them is getting to -14 without a shadow of a doubt, and i'd be willing to entertain some bets if anyone disagrees.

tuq and rushmore,

you guys must have selective hearing or something. I distinctly remember feherty saying the Couples chip in was taped, he said "this is what that hyooj roar was for...."

I really want them to show only Tiger today just so I can see nitbo have an internet meltdown head explosion.

The excitement is partly in the anticipation. Two of the most likely scenarios are one of those guys going out in 34 and the tournament feeling a lot like it is over before it "starts on the back nine Sunday."

very true shemp

still waiting for Tiger to do something epic before he retires like shoot a 59 in the final round of a major...hint hint

Does Westwood have braces? I can't quite tell.

Westwood comeback is amazing. From 4th in world to 230s to 4th. Totally dropped off the map.

I'll take the -15 bet if you want to lay those odds.

I'd bet on u15.0 winning score, 15.0 = tie obv.

Out getting food but will discuss bets in a bit when i get back

Just PM me so we don't tard up the thread.

I dont understand why it is such a big deal to see every shot live... what does it matter whether or not you see Westwood hit his putt live or on a short delay? How does that have any impact at all? If they didn't tell you what was taped and what was live you probably wouldn't even know the difference.

This. I can distinctly remember hearing a roar while someone else was on TV and then CBS switching over to Couples at 15 and saying that this is what produced said roar.

go phil

Sorry to come back to this, I agree with what you're saying that there is more variance in match play at that level of golf, and to win all those matches looks like a very tall order when you look at them as a group. However, if you look at each individual match on a one-on-one basis, who's going to beat him?

It's like Federer winning 14 grand slams. That's what, 98 matches? Taken as a whole it seems virtually impossible to do that, but if you look at each match as a single unit and examine who he has to play and what the guy has to do to beat him, it becomes a much more reasonable feat.

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was thinking like ur 5 to my 50, but it's just not worth it for me lol.

this thread is un-derailable imo

Daaamn, today is going to be exciting. Can't wait!

I don't have to see every shot live. I do prefer to watch live golf over Tiger gazing soulfully into the distance.

When it can be accommodated, things aren't happening simultaneously or nearly so, why wouldn't one prefer live action?

This is wrong if you are good at watching golf-- particularly on the weekend where the field is effectively a handful of golfers and you know where they all are on the course.

You can read the background noise as well-- particularly around Amen Corner. You can tell before seeing it that so-and-so must have stuck his approach, made or just missed a long putt, etc. It's golf via radio.

The other thing, and it doesn't happen on CBS, is that when the announcers pretend it is live it can be insulting.

Not hard to say, "And just moments ago...", etc.

I'm having a hard time figuring out how you proposed a u/o at 13.5 and almost got talked into giving 15.5.

i now need Tiger to shoot at least 64 and win the tournament to make it a win-win all around.

i've never made a bet before where if i win it almost surely means Tiger didn't.

honestly, i'm liking the idea a lot because it will soften the blow if he doesn't win. and it forces me to root for phold or whoever to go low down the stretch if Tiger's out of it. probably will be making a similar wager for every major he plays tbh.

hmmmm...i don't remember offering an u/o at 13.5?

but yeah, i didn't make a very wise wager with Clark, numbers wise, but i'm sort of drunk with excitement so i'm a bit vulnerable.