Yeah not entirely sure OP isn't a troll, but anyways "freelance model" is about as transparent as it gets. Spoiler they are not going to write P4P or something on tinder, they would get kicked out if they did that. In SEA many girls on tinder or badoo are hookers or ladyboys, Manila is above average though based on small small size, some places it's worse, it's basically only hookers or ladyboys.

33 out of 34 girls I banged in the Philippines came straight to my condo without going on a date. None of them asked for money. If they seem like a hooker I ask before meeting "you go with men for money?" and filter them out.

Just invite them to your condo for a movie or pizza without mentioning sex.

Your Wendesday date is my most recent hookup 3 days ago

I would say that being with a girl who is into it is a vastly better experience than being with one who is just hoping you finish ASAP so she can go home, or to another job, but evidently OP can't tell the difference anyway.

If Info's been with her, make sure you wrap it up good

I've been going for the western strat #gtostrat. I guess I should state I'm looking for more than to get laid asap. I'm craving social interaction too. I came here without knowing a single soul in this country.

But, agreed. It is an absurd amount of work and time. Trying to think of witty lines to reply with on tinder is eating away at me. Not sure how much longer I can keep this up.

Luckily, no. What can I say, I run good.

yeah. I remember pulling this stunt a few times in college.

So did you bang?

Update on my 10/21 date with Zhane: we agreed to meet at a rooftop bar called Z Hostel that was filled with white people but extremely cheap. I'm almost never nervous meeting people for the first time, but when I met her, she was way too charismatic/funny right off the bat. It made me start to feel socially awkward for some odd reason. By the first hour, I'm like 6 or 7 beers deep, just trying to drink away my awkwardness.

For one, her bio states she's a "walwal pero intellectual". I had to google this slang....it translates to "drunk but intellectual". Ironic as **** because I got absolutely wasted while she only had one tall mixed drink.

During the night, I invite her over to stay the night at my apartment, and she says yes. Shortly after, I realize I had forgotten to hide my laptop/valuables, and contemplated booking a cheap motel instead. She actually refused to let me pay for her drinks, so I made an educated gamble and nit rolled the motel price and let her come back to my place.

My friend from USA asked if today Philippines is a religious country. My other friend responded that it is, and that the whole country must run good as a result. He was clearly joking, but I was like "dude. This whole country runs horrible. I just met a girl off tinder who went to college for 5 years, and now has a job as an occupational therapist. She makes 80 pesos an hour (~$1.5usd/hour)." After she told me that, I felt bad she kept refusing to let me pay for her, but it was also relieving that she has some character in that sense. Maybe she's just paying for her drinks now and it's her long term plan to fraud me and try to get a green card to USA. Who knows tbh. I have trouble trusting any of these hoes.

Anyways, we head back home. We agree to watch a movie, but immediately we're stripping and making out. She was clearly inexperienced during sex, but I was just happy to be getting laid by someone who wasn't trying to break my monitor lmao.

We stay up the whole night talking about school, past relationships, heartbreaks, and drinking stories. She also tells me she's only had sex with one other person. Story adds up. It turned me on a lot knowing she's fairly innocent. She does go ****** mode tho and sets her alarm for 7am even though she works at 10am and it's only a 30 minute drive from my place. I was pretty tilted after getting less than 2 hours of sleep. We did **** again in the morning though . Truly one of the best nights of my life. We have another date for Thursday. All of this is helping my poker depression/downswing I've been in lately.

Wait. This is ****ing hilarious. 3 days ago?!?! I'm very inclined to bail on my date with her because I had such a great experience with my last date, and I feel like I've been slacking on poker. I want to get out of this downswing asap.

How was she? Knowing you got with her makes me want to go on this date just to say I hooked up with the same girl that another 2+2 poster did lol. We will see, it'll be a game time decision for me.

Where do you live? You must be close I'm assuming

She was great, you should meet her.

She's far so I paid half her grab

our hero is already in love, sweet

- Tinder girl
- Almost virgin, fairly innocent

Pick one

Since Adderall appears to be new here it's only fair to give him a heads up that Info has posted stuff like this where he just lets obvious STDs go untreated. Obviously banging lots of girls off Tinder will come with a high risk of picking something up, but this girl might be an ultra-high risk red alert.

how can you go 4 weeks with those symptoms. its ****ing horrible for 1 day. how the fk dont you get it treated wtf.

Assuming its chlamydia(?), some people don't get symptoms of it at all.

I got tested negative after twoplustwo taught me you can harbor the infection asymptotically.

It wasn't that bad and pain was the wrong word. After the first google search result said "usually goes away by itself within a few weeks" I thought coolio and closed the laptop without further research.

OK, that's good to know.

All clear to bang the same girl that has been with 2+2 legend Info Shove

You sure it's not more something like this? "Symptoms usually goes away by itself within a few weeks, but not the infection". Thrush and chlamydia can have alot of the same symptoms, I guess.

I don't remember the exact wording I read in 2017 to make poor decisions. I make many of them

Maybe there should be a dating a broad thread?

I'm not as experienced at this as others, but having a local girlfriend for a while is the best imo. IDK, maybe you want to get laid a few times first, then semi-settle down.

It's cool to have a friend who can show you around, maybe you help you if you get into some kind of trouble, etc.

Just as an example, my Brazilian girl was really well off. I went to her family's beach house. Had awesome home cooked food. Great conversations. Made friends with her friends. Stuff like that.

Spending time with a girl you like, who likes you, is fun. And, girls outside of the U.S. tend to be much cooler and more pleasant to spend time with in my experience. Sex is better as you feel each other out and get comfortable.

There's more to life than sex and you don't want to spend your whole time in a foreign country playing games on apps so just so you can tell people you banged a lot of girls.

i agree. nobody wants to be with a starfish. but there are many types of working girls. there are the hardcores. then theres the true freelancers who have a day job and just looking to supplement income or had an unexpected expenditure and need to cover the gap. there are also the girls who are jaded from getting pumped and dumped 'for free' so they decide to make sure they get something out of it. arguably the last group is more intelligent then those who meetup and bang for free off tinder. also from my experience girls in all 3 groups can start off transactional in nature but after a few meetups can convert to free/relationships

+1

Casual sex is like money. Would you feel happier if you 2x ( or better 3x, 4x, 10x) your capital? Short term ofc you will feel happier but at the end, money don't buy happiness, you will still feel empty if your only goal is about getting richer. The pursuit of money or casual sex is ultimately an empty one. We, humans, are born wired for connection, it's in our DNA. From my personal experience (I smashed xxx, 3 digit number, girls) the best time(s) of my life was with my two ex GFs (LTR) and now with my actual gf. At the end casual sex is like a drug, you become an addict (Californication style), you get short term high but long term it will not make you happier (going from 3 digit to 4 digit number will not change your life, same from 2 digit to 3 digit).

Now for OP, my two cents, you look young and inexperienced with girls (I could be wrong, anyway no offense), my advice is to chill, enjoy your time here, experience by yourself, learn after that like we all did (or not). The day you will be looking for a LTR with a girl, forget about Tinder, hookers or girls from bars / nightclubs, it might sound crazy but they are not gf materials, cold approach in malls, coffee shop, near universities, etc. From there plenty of ways to see if she's GF material or not, by looking at her social medias, her friends, tattoos or no tattoo, smoking cigarettes or not, barely drink alcohol or not (party girl), etc..

this is great advice for a christian rock lovers forum. 2+2 is a poker forum for degenerate gamblers. even for us pros our entire daily existence is about getting money, banging hos with said money. op plays high enough stakes to lose 6 figs in a day, i vote he trys to slay as many app/hookers as possible. sure your suggestion is the smart play, but nobody wants to read about that.

Christian rock lovers forum? No clue what it means. If about religion, my post has nothing to do with religion, just about life.

The only advice I gave, was about how to find a girl who is gf material and as a (young) newbie in SEA, to chill, enjoy his time here, experience by himself and learn from his experience. That's it. Crazy, right??