you have made your wrong opinion very clear

one thing i am quite certain of based on your past posting history is that when (not if) i do quit there will never be an 'i was wrong' post coming from you


i already showed i can quit last year

i came back this year because i didnt have many other options, jspill has already agreed to give me many (MANY!) other options, and i have other other options as well, and another option that i dont think i will like but will give a shot

the other main differences between now and when i decided to come back last september are

A) i wasnt sure that after a 6 month break whether i would still hate the game or not... i clearly still do

and B) the game is far worse then it was last year and by next year it will be even worse

i am currently playing on 4 holdem tables

the two .50-1 average pots are $10 and $8

the two .25-.50 avg pots are $6 and $4.50


before this year i would never even have considered sitting in these games as there would easily be 6 or more .50-1s with $15 avg pots

now these are the only games running


the game isnt quite dead yet but its very close

wow jspill wasnt joking when he said he was going to try and kill the president(ial candidate)

recommending the leftovers has to be the worst advice you've ever given me outside of telling me to take an antiviral when i needed an antibacterial

The fact that you are still playing proves you don't know if you can quit.
That's like a smoker telling you he knows he can quit because he did it last year, while blowing smoke in your face and lighting up another cigarette.

K2 is one ungrateful ***** ****.

Agree. I'd be lucky if I had as many people providing helpful, solid advice as k2d does.

That's not quitting. That's quitting and then relapsing.

Rationalize your decisions however you like but that's what it is.

A gambling addiction is not the flu. Avoiding our addictions requires lifelong maintenance and control whether it's alcohol, narcotics or gambling.

Anyway, you don't want help or claim to need help. All I can do is wish you the best of luck if you do quit permanently.

Although I don't think K2d's Holdem play is all that bad, I can see why people are dubious of it, but there is a big elephant in the room being talked around and ignored endlessly.

If k2d really has lived off poker for 10 years than he either is or, at least until recently, was a winning player. You can't play for 10 years, live off of it, and not be a winning player over a solid, meaningful sample size.

So either K2d:

- Started with a lot of money 10 years ago and has slowly dribbled it away over that time, and is in fact a losing player. From what I can glean of Dante and his life, I find this possibility highly unlikely.

- Has actually made all his money from other jobs over that time and is pulling our legs that it was from poker

- Is telling the truth, and has made most of the money he's lived off of from poker in which case he either is or was until recently a winning player.

I find the chance k2d somehow had a lot of money 10 years ago (would have to have been 6 figures probably,) and slowly dribbled it away, to be very unlikely.

So he is either telling the truth and has been a winning player over that time, hard as it may be for you guys to believe, or he's worked other jobs consistently through that time and is break even or slight losing poker player and he lives off money from other jobs.

I'm inclined to believe that most of his money really has come from poker and thus he is a winning player, hard as it may be for you guys to believe.

Just because you're a winning poker player doesn't necessarily mean that you aren't addicted to it. There are plenty of functioning alcoholics out there.

Winning was way easier 10 years ago than it is now. There were a ton of winners in the glory days. Now, the vast majority have gone on to find greener pastures because the time investment into becoming and staying a winning player is simply not enough to justify the hourly rate. A lot of the big name online pros from only a few years ago are hardly even heard from nowadays either because they haven't won as much as in the past or they outright left the game.

Itt:
There's no elephant, as there is no proof.
He has no records of his play.
You assume he either won before or is winning now to sustain his lifestyle.
For the record, I'm not saying he is or isn't, but, I've known poker players that:
A) survive by menial side jobs
B) family money or some sympathetic friends hoping he'll quit soon
C) staking and expenses by other poker players
D) scamming people
The line, "I've survived 10 years I can't be losing at poker" is a fallacy.
I'm sure you all know at least one losing poker player who hasn't found a way to die in the last ten years.
He doesn't owe us any proof, but surviving ten years isn't proof he was ever a winning player.

I understand there is no definitive proof, that's why I covered those other possibilities in my post as well. It could be any one of those I agree.

All I'm saying is that IF he actually has gotten by on mostly poker for 10 years then he IS a winning player. You can't get by that long without being one. Now that doesn't mean he has a good winrate, but he does have a positive winrate. IF he is telling the truth that is. You're right we don't know for sure if he is or not. Personally I think he is, but you could be right that he is not.

i guess you've never heard of official poker rankings .com

when i moved to vegas i had umder $5k

i had a part time job for a little over a year



superuber is it ok that i rationalize it by saying that it was a way for me to make more money then any other thing i was doing at the time? and that i did it because it was my best chance to earn? but now i have decided its not worth it anymore?

cuz really your opinion of me (which is always so positive) is very important...... more important then that actual truth

Like I said, if you can do something you enjoy for money and get away from gambling for me then that's terrific. I hope you do it. Nobody wants to spend their life in a job that they hate.

i can and i will

right now my main worry is whether these games are even good enough to get a rush in

past few weeks without a doubt the worst selection in my time on 888

I think you should just stick to holdem not bother with PLO.

I meant to say "gambling for a living" not "gambling for me"

I make some goofy mistakes when posting. That's even after I edit them like 3-4 times.

i came here to post this hand before knowing your post..... this is why i have to disagree

sit in 1-2 PLO and win a $50 pot with AAxx just calling a raise pre on button and a few people seeing AQ7r i bet they fold

few hands later i limp early mid with AJJ8ddxx, two other limpers and bb aggrotard reg pots it (without a doubt the biggest single mistake PLO regs make is potting it out of the blinds to 'punish the limpers' and building big pots they must play oop..... anyways)

all four of us see 1097cc i have nuts with no redraw but 2 jacks is nice to have

sb uberregfish (maybe the worst of the reg fish if only because he plays basically every day, some are worse than him but they play less often) checks, bb aggrotard checks, i pot it for 40 co and sb both call

turn 3s i pot it again for 160 getting basically my whole stack in, co folds, sb uberregfish calls with bottom set and a pair (A977), riv 6 he check calls the last 40



that is from a reg that has played with me every day for the last month and a half, check calling full pot on turn with bottom set and basically no implied when i am showing him my straight and saying hey dummy you should fold


and on my other 4 holdem tables people are passing around a few dollars at a time and no real action happening at all

yesterday i instantly doubled up in 1-2 PLO and then had a chance for a huge score getting to use the free money from the double up to run a 3 way all in with AAK3ds against AJ94 (suited jack) and QQ109 one suit but they both made two pair

then i won my profits back when i had AQ64 suited A on the button against the uberfish on A53hh i had nut hearts and hit on 6h turn and he pays off with the K873ds he potted it with from the big blind pre

weirdly he just check calls turn and riv with the 2nd nuts...... but is potting K873 (and every hand almost) pre

still won a massive pot (made more massive thanks to his awesome preflop raise)

888 plo is stuck in 2006, it seems that there holdem may have finally caught up with the times

Why dont you play mtts anymore? Much softer then cash games.

variance

if i were to continue with poker i would probably/possibly make the change back to mtts, or add 5 or 6 mtts a day and bumhunt the cash games even more then i already do (meaning not force myself to play 6 tables if 6 arent worthy)


with that said the mtt scene is also far worse than it was a few years ago at least for what i like (low buy in rebuys with good guaranteed prize pools) and the site i did the best on post black friday (party) is pretty craptastic

Mtts fit in with your bink and quit plan more. You can play till you hit a decent top 3 run for like one more week after and see if its the rush you were looking for and if you run bad just stop till you feel like getting back on the grind. Yeah mtts are tougher then they used to be but still more fish and bad regs punting stacks of then in cash these days.

As long as K2D posts some blowjob stories here and there, he's still our hero

definitely more fish in em but who knows if i will sit down to a rush or not

right now on 888 i know ive been in downswing mode for so long that surely any day now uptick should be coming

Discussion of whether k2d is a fish with a gambling problem or not is boring and won't lead anywhere.

'Cause we all know how far everything else went.

Whens your patts trip coming K2D? I'm gonna be in town from BKK for a 10 days or so from the 24th-into early March.

I'm in Tokyo right now its amazing. Thinking of working out how to spend my future energy staying here so many hot girls running around.

Loled

Super jelly yellow I want to live in Tokyo so badly. Please post pics

I havent been taking like any pics my gf has a bunch of pics of food and tourist stuff we've been doing i could get from her I guess. I'm not sitting back snapping picks off all the hotties or anything like that even though I SHOULD be.

I'm not moving there yet bro just saying the idea is coming into my head big time right now. I'd have to work alot harder and without a work visa/marriage visa you can only do short term living here but it just seems like a really sick place to live girls are smoking lifestyle is amazing. I'd have to adjust some things to do it but i think it'd be worth it just thinking about living here gives me some goosebumps on how fun it would be. You could easily do like half year here i imagine.

Actually gf already brought it up that i want to come live here and leave her tonight guess she could tell i was thinking id rather live here just from what ive been saying or something. NEVER seen so many hot girls like I see in Tokyo man its absurd.