while you're super sus, it's something i'd do with anyone joining the group chats who didn't have an identity before this event or the admin didn't know personally

literally every time there's a scammer at 2p2 they use the threads about their scam to gather intel about what is being planned as a response to get ahead of it

he's without doubt viewing this thread daily and quite possibly already in your chat groups - why wouldn't he be?

you should be welcoming this kind of due diligence not getting offended

harmonyP is cool. dont worry rick

I have no problem at you chasing him here just dont waste your time investigating after me. u can telegram me if u want

I'm glad that Mike is deleting his social media accounts, it shows at least he still wants to stick around the earth for now even if hiding.

Mike,
The shittiest father that you are personally capable of being is still 1,000x better than no father at all to your children.

Suck it up and deal with it. Just consider that 10 years of degen now taking 10 years to pay back and you can still come out the other side with a good name.

Agreed. My guess is lockdowns and covid really took a number on a social guy like him and he let his gambling get out of control.

100k seems like a lot, but it is possible to make a payment plan for that. I hope he comes forward, explains himself, and tries to rectify the situation.

Absolute scum. POS.
Always was an unethical POS posting the photos he would tbh.

Mike would boast about how he was clearing 10k USD a week. I was able to fetch some of his records from when he was my customer. Below is his record for 6 months. Showing his customers paid in 329k in rake of which Mike kept 20-40% of.

Im not making the connection between that and what you quoted.

Sorry I was unclear. I was simply showing that Mike had an income of 20-30,000 a month. He could easily pay back the 100k if he came and faced the music. Running away from the players is not the way to do it. He could have humanized himself and came up with a payment plan for those affected. He handled this horribly considering he had quite a good business.

Agreed 100%. Seeing the numbers really make me confused about the whole situation though.

Why is he running away with 100k when he is making that much? Is it likely going to be way more than 100k?

The numbers don't make sense to me, this seems incredibly shortsighted.

I am not sure how to post a voice clip in here. I have some clips of Triad desperately asking his friend to borrow 5000 dollars due to a poker club named Highlands scamming him. This friend is now out nearly $10,000.The clip about him going to jail on November 15th and being extorted at ABA bank are also with it. Can any admins assist me in posting these?

I am not sure how to post a voice clip in here. I have some clips of Triad desperately asking his friend to borrow 5000 dollars due to a poker club named Highlands scamming him. This friend is now out nearly $10,000.The clip about him going to jail on November 15th and being extorted at ABA bank are also with it. Can any admins assist me in posting these? One interesting thing to note is Triad said he was jumped at Carls Jr 1 year ago. He sent me some photo of his face all busted up. Now this has all transpired I am wondering if he was beaten up due to a past debt possibly.

You would have to host them somewhere then post the link, I don't think 2p2 offers a direct service.

Even with that I still don't understand. How much credit was he allowed to play with? Compared to how much you claim he was making I am struggling to envision a scenario where he thinks his best move is to grab less than what he makes in a year and run.

Since someone keeps accusing me of being close to him and protecting him, I'll just clarify: I'm seeking to understand the situation, I am not defending theft.

Edit: also is it possible that he owes someone in Cambodia a lot of money for things not poker related?

If he was grossing that much a month then he's in for a LOT more than 100k

Sorry to the guys who are getting stiffed in all this.

Agreed, that's the only way it makes to me at all. But why aren't they on here saying they're owed money too?

Mike was considered a trusted agent until the "arrest". Meaning with myself and a few other affiliates he could have unlimited credit but Triad would be expected to settle every 10-20000 lost. We all trusted him and were paid weekly for years. Having someone do weekly settlements is beneficial to the operators. It allows them to cut down transactions and small player payouts those transactions to players fall on Triad. We would give his staff an excel sheet weekly with the win loss of each player and rake generated. Right when his ABA was "frozen" and he was subsequently arrested the following I cut him off from credit. From what has come forward he was obviously able to find other marks.

Last figure I saw was that he might owe 100k. I would expect that if he had a lot more marks that they would be showing up and adding to that figure. Do you think it's possible that people who are owed don't know to contact you all yet? Do you think it's possible that he owed money not related to poker?

I'm not making sense of the numbers. I can't see anyone but the most shortsighted person doing this.

Also I'd love to see some kind of timeline from when suspicious behavior started until now.

I don't know where he found all these players
330k rake and -190k lost
looks like a lot of live recs/gamblers since only a few members from 2+2 came out and accused PT of scam/steal
would have expected to be a lot more players from this community

That 10k was a number of when I last saw him which was in early 2019, I think he also mentioned it to me. It's quite conceivable that he grew his clubs and made more than that later on, especially with Covid and all that. I played a little bit in his clubs, the games were reasonably good, it was certainly not a majority of 2+2ers or something. He was a very sociable person, much more so than the average 2+2 nerd like me for example, it was easy for him to make a lot of friends and get to know new people wherever he went...

Here's where I'm at with everything. Mike was a forum reg with an outstanding reputation (people who think he's a bad guy for sleeping with bar girls excluded). He struck me as a person who enjoyed this reputation immensely. I can see potential situations where he would get so in debt that he does run off with money, but him being in such a situation hasn't been proven yet. At the very least, him getting extorted because he's flashed around too much money is a possibility.

I would pool all your info together and make a new thread with facts only, and no opinions, in the title and op. The title can be something like "<name> <aliases> owes x and has gone missing" then I would make the first post detail the entire timeline with facts only. Do not say "he pretended to be extorted" say "he called and said he is being extorted". Keep the entire first post like this and I will sticky it and update that first post as new info comes in. I find it unlikely that any agents don't know about 2p2, but if someone googles his name and aliases then hopefully they're able to find that thread.

The rest of that thread can be used to discuss the possibilities and probabilities of what has gone down (hopefully without dumb comments).

I am open to any suggestions. Also I'd suggest not letting famafer talk to anyone about this at the moment. From what I've seen hes too emotionally attached (understandable) and more than likely to drive help away.

Edit: I think distinction between what is owed to his players and what is owed to clubs for his own losses is a key thing to include as well.

Initially I thought he just spewed too much online / irl and got him self in a v bad spot.. but the more I find out the more it seems like it was preplanned

But if it was pre planned he could have defo got a lot more money before he ran off.. If he had asked me to borrow 2k or sth I would have lent it to him no questions asked, I think many others in PP would have done the same.

It's a pretty weird situation, hope we can get some answers soon :s I think he is most likely still in cambodia rn tho

Agreed, in all scenarios there's stuff that doesn't make sense. Running off with the money makes the most sense to me atm, but at the same time there's so much off about it that I don't think it's a 100% given. Maybe as more info comes out, and if people give a better recap of what happened, it'll become more obvious.

Either way I think the separate thread with title and op for only 100% facts is a good idea.

He never backtracked. He simply said it's poor taste to post pictures of naked prostitutes sleeping in his bed on a public forum - without their consent - especially when you have a family with young kids who might see it one day. Somehow you desperately want to equate this with him simply saying that sleeping with prostitutes is bad. Odd behaviour for a mod.

But it's a shame this happened because I was looking forward to hearing if there is any live action in Phnom Penh these days. Anybody know?

Lmao, oh how the tables have changed. I actually found PT through your “Broke Brothers” thread Yazz, and never thought this is how it’d end. The dude imploded and lost his mind. RIP Cambo thread, was fun both reading and being apart of the debauchery. GL to everyone who he scummed, i hope ya'll get paid and he gets what he deserves.

^I'll be in PP from tomorrow I'll let you know. If anyone wants to meet for drink or a couple PM, cheers. My liver needs kind of a break after Thailand, but can still do prolly lol. But based on my whatsapp feed RK is running, the casino is even on Pokeratlas these days, so you can check the action out. Other games also AFAIK.