jspill, yes I did ask that on all threads, because they all have different OPs. I've been searching info on Southeast Asia all day, and the existence of 1 discussion doesn't mean there isn't more to be said (especially cause many people have different experiences depending on the Country, City or even Neighborhood.

everyone reads the same threads, this travel subforum is quite small. the OP doesn't matter. you'd have got zrebna's answers in any 1 thread. crossposting is bad forum etiquette

Just a quick note. We do offer all players rides to and from Queenco in a company van. So if it is late and you don't feel comfortable on a Moto or Tuk Tuk alone late at night just let me know and I'll arrange the Van.

is that a free service and how far does the van take people? something like that would change my opinion of going there late at night because queenco is nicer than the other casinos in sihanoukville.

Lol69 it is a free service. I Actually sent the van Sunday and Monday to pick up someone at serendipity for our daily tournament and then sent him back that night. The night of our party BongoLock and the Bros used it to get home. I will have to confirm how far out we can offer but for sure Golden Lion area is no problem.

Let me know if you'd like me to arrange it for you.

Pretty sure Yazz told you about that a while ago.

lol69's hate for Queenco stems from his mugging by a 16yr old hooker imo...

Been to Independence for a swim at noon and went to "Five Men Brewery Bar"-whatever afterwards cause it was on the way and I heard 2 things about it: 1. The owner did a brewery examn in Germany and 2. He's still not good at it. Interesting enough for me to check it out.

Actually the "yellow beer" what they call it there, tastes a bit like wheat beer (in Germany) but is more a Lager than that. Surprising, but wasn't too bad actually. Good enough to have 8 in two hours. Price: $0,50. Quality of the beer would depend on the brew course I guess, but what's the best about this place:

Amazingly cheap AND fresh sea food. Had to plates of fresh Squids (just out of the sea in the morning) and paid $3 for it. Would have been at least 25-30€ for this amount in Germany - while definitively not being that fresh. Can only recommend checking out this place when in Snooky. Location: Just on the left side of the road down to Independence Beach coming from Downtown/Center.

Any chance of these pics? Any pics of the $120 place would also be welcome.

Gonna go and try to pick up some free chick tonight. Would really like to see if that's working 2 times in a row.

Also just wanted to mention for everyone, especially lol69, that Queenco also allows you to deposit, and leave money at the cage. So, if you know you are going to keep coming to play tournaments and such, there is no reason to carry money back and forth all the time.

Does anyone know he best way to get from PP to Pattaya? Are there any direct flights? Or a night bus?

Two guys I know who are working at a guesthouse on Koh Rong island in front of Sihanoukville have been victims of attempted murder and robbery last night. We managed to get them a speedboat from Koh Rong to Sihanoukville, just left the hospital here a few minutes ago as they are now being transfered to a bigger hospital in Phnom Penh.
One of them has a fructured head (they tried to smash his head with big stones from the beach) the other one a broken arm and other fractions. Doesn't look too good for one of the guys cause he could also have brain bleedings. We'll see in Phnom Penh hospital, as they literally didn't know **** in Sihanoukville. Just had a meeting with some Khmer guys in a KTV last night when I received the call, so didn't sleep for almost 30 hours now and they nightmare seems to continue. Cambo can for sure be a ****ed up country.

Sorry to hear about your friends bongo, do they have insurance if so can they be moved to a Bangkok hospital?

Actually don't know yet as both of them are still in either very critical condition and/or unconscious for most of the time. As these fuc.kers also stole their wallets and everything and emptied their rooms in the guesthouse we haven't been able to find any insurance cards or whatever. We had to pay cash for them at the clinic in Sihanoukville and are now trying to find some relatives of them (as they're Canadian) on facebook to get a phone number and contact them to tell them about what happened and ask for insurance stuff and so on. Highly doubt tho they're (or at the least the one with the fructured head) is in a condition to be put on a plane or helicopter to Bangkok. But as I said: We don't know before they have been checked in Phnom Penh. One of us guys is with them at the moment and we others - as said - try to get in contact with their families in Canada.

We have already been asked a few questions by the local police and were told someone from PP is coming down as well and he will meet us at our place asap to ask further questions for the investigation. As we understood it there's also some press people coming with them as they want to get the story straight so not too much harm will happen to the image of the island. Guess they're playing it down a bit in the press. Usually it only takes a couple of hours only to have something like that published. At least they seem to take it really serious, as there's a lot of money in Koh Rong involved and they don't want to get press. Even received a call from the Korean guy owning the island who promised us his help in any regards. Let's see, it's a really ****ed up situation right now.

i'm sorry about your friends. i know it has nothing to do with the queenco, and the queenco do take peoples safety seriously by the sound of it by providing a shuttle van, but you can see why i was paranoid about being in an isolated area of sihanoukville at night.

unfortunately these violent assaults/murders are commonplace in cambodia and especially sihanoukville. you need to exercise extreme caution and not give off even the slightest hint of wealth unless you plan on staying inside the confines of your hotel at night.

get a bus to ko kong

tuk tuk from bus station to the border for about $6 i think.

cross border. ignore the touts

take minivan to trat for 120 baht. it'll drop you off at the bus station.

then take a bus to pattaya. buses to bkk leave frequently (hourly or so). i'm not so sure about pattaya. it might be quicker to get the bus to bkk then take the bus to pattaya.

you will probably have to stay overnight in either ko kong or trat unless there's a bus going to koh kong at 6am.

of you can just take an airasia flight and take the bus to pattaya.

Police arrived and we get questioned one after the other - almost feels like we're the suspects... The guys arrived in PP and are now being checked. One of them was throwing up multipe times at the transport. Don't know if that's good (cause he's woken up) or bad now. Also managed to get in contact with the father of one of them who knows the family of the other one - at least they know what's going on now. Trying to figure out the insurance situation of them while waiting to be asked by the police men. At least their English is pretty good.

its cambodia, the police are just going thru the motions. i imagine their level of incompetence is super super high and they will mostly likely be useless. they probably will be 0% helpful in the end.

as you said if anything they are scared of a potential news story getting out that will be bad for the tourism business in the area. id contact the korean island owner once your friends have partially recovered physically, get him to help pay for damages and financial restitution for your friends.

The "feels super safe" crowd will probably keep a low profile for a few days after this latest news.

Guys, get yourself some kind of insurance when you're staying in Cambodia. We had to pay $1500 for the guys treatment in the hospital in Sihanoukville and the transport to Phnom Penh because we couldn't provide insurance information (as all of their stuff got stolen and they've been longterm expats/travellers so their parents didn't have anything either). That was just a very, very basic treatment so I can only imagine what the bill is going to be like for the CTR scans and sh.it in Phnom Penh. Still waiting on the information from our guy who's there with them.

The police asked a **** load of questions and their chief (a major with a really nice Lexus SUV) actually said a few things that lead us in the direction of "we don't want the wrong things to go public". That being said there was also a guy at the island, in the hospital and then with us who took photos for Phnom Penh Post - so it's gonna go public within short time, but I guess not the whole story about it/something that doesn't throw a too bad light on the island and tourism there. We'll see.

****ed up day for sure and I just hope the guy one guy doesn't have any swellings or brainbleedings. Heard from a doctor in Sihanoukville a surgery like that would at least cost $45k - you can now imagine what a transport flight to Bangkok and a treatment there would cost without insurance.

Cambodian humanity side note: After they arrived on the SHV main land we ordered a taxi to take them to the hospital. With a moto or tuktuk you'd usually pay not more than $3 - the taxi driver wanted $100 after he'd seen what condition the guys are in. He didn't care **** about they could probably die or whatever. I knew this kind of behaviour before, but when you're in a situation like that you just feel like raging.

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Two of us left SHV towards the island to search for the suckers who did this as it's very unlikely they left Koh Rong already. Depending on the information they can get I might join them tomorrow. We don't really trust the police in taking action here.

Very crazy story. Hope everything turns out ok.

Highly suggest you try to relax some now that it's out of your hands and think about the situation. Going to look for the guys who did this is an awful idea.

I'd say that's a slight exaggeration....

It isn't. You are just naive. And when people take your terrible advice about how safe it is, things like this happen.

Alright, just received a call from our friend who's with them at the hospital in Phnom Penh:

1st guy has a heavy concussion, 2 head bone fractures and brain swelling. Blood running out of his ears for the whole day now, comment at hospital in Sihanoukville: "Don't know why, you need go Phnom Penh make CT scan they know." Pretty, pretty bad condition cause it passed already way too much time for a surgery that usually needs to take place immediately. Estimated costs - depending on the overall length of the surgery - as far as we know now: $30-50k.

My friends are phoning all around their banks in Europe to find out what's the fasted way to get such an amount to Cambodia (as they banks here already closed mostely) and to withdraw it then. Pain in the ass.

2nd guy - he was trying to protect himself from being hit with heavy stones as well, after he got attacked with an axe but was able to get hold of it and throw it in the jungle - and because of the stones smashing down on his arms instead of his head he got 2 broken arms now. Luckily it doesn't seem like he's going into surgery for both; only for the right one.

****ed up thing for sure.

https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/s...ukville-80217/

Ok so sihanokvil is like most dangerous place? im prob better staying to pp and siem reap and nicer places?.. i was planning on going there but now it might not be worth it just for a beach.