I agree with you in the long run its terrible for the room. It's one of those things like when Omaha first became a thing in Phnom Penh; it's a freight train no one can stop and a can of worms the management wish they hadn't opened.

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I still don't really understand this. If Naga is the only legal game in town, what's a better alternative to that than private card clubs?

What a sad state of affairs things must be for PT to write this.

So who is spreading short deck now?

Everyone is just better off playing at Naga

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I certainly hope that things haven't gotten that bad that the Naga is the answer. I understand that Chris is doing the best that can be done there but when I do venture there I have to get my head right. The slow dealers and the change the deck journeys are far too painful to endure if not somewhat ripped.

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Naga is terrible in many respects. Dealers are incredibly slow and still make the same mistakes that only beginners should make after a long time dealing, card changing and other nonsense, getting chips / money is also incredibly slow and the rake is huge.

Also the amount of second hand smoke you get there is sometimes impossible to take, on my last trip I got so sick from it I had to stay one day at home and not play in any room because the night before Naga was busy at the sportsbook (CL quarterfinal or something) and playing there was like being on the inside of an ashtray.
BUT sometimes Naga has decent / good games and gets some players that the other rooms don't really get and you can play until late at night.
The NL games were already so so before the RKs "split", I don't think that's a new development or something.
I agree about the ante, but from what I've seen pretty much everyone in this game is totally shortstacked so the skill edge is somewhat limited, it's just some donking around

it all seems very shady what's going on withe riverking rooms

What did you end up doing, or rather where?

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I am not sure about the ante game. It obv depends on the pockets of the players. Loosing 6 figures short-term can be a normal swing if you consider that 50$ ante is somewhat compareble to 100/200.

From what I have seen neither the spots in this game nor the regs play any 1/3 game or really rarely. So it doesn't affect the playerpool of the lower games. Of course these players have to recover and some of them are not even living in PP. So the action is swingy anyway.

Yeah they don't really play in the 1/3, but I played 5/5NL and 5/5PLO with some of them

I haven't seen any 5/5 NLH (1-2 hours doesn't really count) in the last month and even 5/5 PLO was rare. Imo 10 ante even runs more frequently.

Imo the rake in this ante game is somewhat fair with 5% cap 30 even u reach it every hand.
When u look at shv you have 10% cap 50 on 5/10 and even 100 on 10/20 plus this draining insurance. Plus more than half the table is seated by shareholders (I guess also at bao mai). This is draining way more than too high limits.

There is not a single room in Sihanoukville that charges a 10% rake. The caps are high but that's because the market is being set by people who've never run a room before. And the high caps are only in the bigger games. What do you think the rake will be at RK1 once original Riverking closes? I actually want to get this question on the record as a reference point for when it inevitably goes up.

The games down here are phenomenaly good and at so many levels. You can play anywhere from $1-$1 to $10-$20 and while some games are better than others, there is not a single one that I would characterize as bad; well maybe one. The movement is trending toward here, not the other way around. Many Phnom Penh players have already come down and have decided to stay while I cannot think of a single player living in Sihanoukville that has made the move to the capital city and decided to stay.

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And just a note about the insurance. You don't have to take it and if you don't want to play against those who regularly give the house a 20% edge and take it all the time, why are we even playing this game?

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Pronto just texted me a correction. One room in Sihanoukville does take 10%, Gobo East. But just that one.

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I am watching the live or pre recorded videos on Facebook, not much skill poker just any 2 cards and if you hit something or have a draw they get it in an hope and pray. Just a loose gamblers way of playing, they play there cards and bluff way too much with no plan other then hope they fold plus they have no chance of improving if called.

Yeah Mary is really great at that, doing Facebook live for our games throughout the night. I don't know if it was you who suggested it, but I gave her that raise and promoted her to a floor manager.

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That was me, glad you did it, she puts in a lot of effort.

Yep my info is based on before I last left the place, which was the weekend after Easter or before Khmer new year. Even then the 5/5NL was a rare game (but quite a good game). The 10ante appears to be the fad of the day now.
Most generally speaking I agree that it's not the best place for games at present, the reasons why I keep coming back to the place do not really include the state of the poker games. I perfectly believe Sihanoukville or even BKK games might be significantly better, having said that my recent PP stats are quite decent, so it's not like it's impossible to make money playing there.

I think I will take a month or two trip to Cambodia, Apartments are so cheap. I am in a Facebook group and it has people posting apartments all the time for $250 a month, not the nicest places but who is going to be in their apartment for more then sleeping and screwing?
Facebook group

But the rake is still killing me and don't really like to sit down with too many Chinese maniacs. 1 or 2 is fine but a full table is like crossing a mine field.

It's one of two rooms that run the high limits regularly. Afaik it's the only one that has 5/10 daily. So it's significant.

Regarding the insurance this affects everyone. You can count it as second rake. It's breaking the spots faster and lowers the stacks in-game. So it decreases the winrate of regs.
The only reason you can do that is because most regs have deals or are even shareholders. Fresh money is getting in by tourists which give a sh**t about rake.

I can't recommend shv to anyone that is doing a trip because a) it's a ****hole (not joking, you can smell it) and b) the rake is killing you if you don't have a deal depending the limits you play. Of course you can compensate it with table selection.

As long as the promos run in rk1 it should be the better place. At least for short trips. Tables are from superdry to juice. Not much difference to shv.

Except Omaha players

-chicken

I don't think anyone would ever call you either a promo chaser or bum hunter chicken. If you ever became one, my hope in poker would be forever gone .

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A couple of weeks back the former owner of Riverking was driving 5-10 games over at Naga. If that's still a thing, that's the only hold'em game worth playing in Phnom Penh.

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Arrived in Phnom Penh for a couple of days to see the wife and kid. She's due to give birth any day now so I'm trying to time one of these trips right so that I'm actually present when it happens. Met up with Renton555 this morning to grab some breakfast over at Digby's, although I'm not sure I should say breakfast as I had a club sandwich. BTW using pastrami in a club sandwich is pure genius. I doubt I'll play any poker this trip given all that's going on, although I'm somewhat tempted to play the red fox tourney tonight.

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So my wife is still pregnant and I'm on the road headed back to Sihanoukville. The baby is due any day now so hopefully I can time the next visit well. But I'm basically on call and I'll head back up as soon as my wife calls me to tell me the baby is coming. Renton555 will be down soon as well and he's already offered to cover my shifts when I have to take some time off so that'll make it a lot easier.

Things have become really desperate at original Riverking as games are down to 2-3 hours a day on only one table. Consider the following a public service announcement. To those who have money in their bank, I would go now to get it out. Your money is most likely fine no matter what happens but these things go down a lot easier if done while the room is still open. For those that have money on the online platform no need to worry as Renton got that money out a while ago. In fact he's bringing that down with him and we'll run it out of Bao Mai with a local sub-agent handling deposits and payouts in Phnom Penh.

The staff see the writing on the wall as well as several have asked me for jobs down in Sihanoukville. I'm taking one dealer now with two more possibly coming later. Even two dealers from RK1 have reached out and asked for jobs this week. I suppose they're not getting enough downs and as much as our business has picked up lately I doubt I can accommodate so much staff.

Traffic coming out of Phnom Penh was terrible so I'm just now barely leaving the city. I miss my wife and child terribly but I won't lie in saying that I'm looking forward to getting back to the room and maybe having a cocktail on the beach at some point tonight.

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CAN SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT POKER IN CAMBODIA??!!??