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10-18-2009 , 04:18 PM

ac on

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I know that Internet Texas Holdem offers books to US residents. Can't 2+2 use the same legal argument they do? Or is it just a gray area that is untested and currently too risky? Would the program be likely to accept US players if the UIGEA bill was pushed back a year?

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10-19-2009 , 09:15 AM

danielbell

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Originally Posted by ac on

The book bonus is part of a referral program, and people in the US can't play on the sites which 2+2 works with.

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11-11-2009 , 11:39 AM

peng7135

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danielbell has a point, why can't we in the US get the same benefit?

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11-11-2009 , 12:39 PM

Faybio

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Originally Posted by peng7135

danielbell has a point, why can't we in the US get the same benefit?

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people in the US can't play on the sites which 2+2 works with.

This

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11-11-2009 , 10:56 PM

ac on

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What's stopping 2+2 from making these deals sites that accept US players, like Cake, FTP, Stars, etc.?

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11-12-2009 , 01:35 AM

Mason Malmuth

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Originally Posted by ac on

What's stopping 2+2 from making these deals sites that accept US players, like Cake, FTP, Stars, etc.?

This has to do with our legal advice. We would certainly like to offer this promotion to everyone, but at this time the advice we have received is not to do it. If it changes in the future, then our Bonus Books Program will also change.

Best wishes,
Mason

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12-03-2009 , 03:42 PM

ddoobie

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i understand why they dont except us players,"better to be safe then sorry"

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12-03-2009 , 04:29 PM

AcesFullMoon

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Originally Posted by ddoobie

i understand why they dont except us players,"better to be safe then sorry"

They actually do except US players. They don't accept us though.

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12-04-2009 , 02:08 AM

surpt

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Originally Posted by ac on

What's stopping 2+2 from making these deals sites that accept US players, like Cake, FTP, Stars, etc.?

Well, 2+2 is fully an US-based company and therefore in much easier reach of the US legal system, while sites like Cake, FTP, Stars, etc, are NOT US based.

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12-04-2009 , 09:17 AM

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omaha

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Its not for the legalities, as mason alluded to

The real reason is that we just dont like americans here. They talk too loudly , carry their cameras arround their necks, yet never take photos, chew tabaccee and carry far too many guns around in their huntin pickup trucks

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12-04-2009 , 12:32 PM

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Tehsauce

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Originally Posted by omaha

I think you are confusing Americans with Republicans. It's ok, everyone makes mistakes.

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12-04-2009 , 02:43 PM

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AcesFullMoon

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Originally Posted by Tehsauce

I think you are confusing Americans with Republicans. It's ok, everyone makes mistakes.

Lol. I'm not even a Repubulican, but I'm pretty sure there are some Dems out there that like tobacco and carry cameras around lol. And, Eastern Kentucky raised hick that I am, I know plenty of Dems that drive around in their muddy pickups killing critters.

The other problem with Americans is they inject politics into conversations where it just doesn't seem to fit quite right. They're also quick to point out they're not like those "other Americans" whenever they feel they must justify their existence to them cool people from across the ocean

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12-05-2009 , 01:34 AM

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Poker Clif

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Originally Posted by omaha

Its not for the legalities, as mason alluded to

The real reason is that we just dont like americans here. They talk too loudly , carry their cameras arround their necks, yet never take photos, chew tabaccee and carry far too many guns around in their huntin pickup trucks

You've obviously never been around a group of Japanese tourists.

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12-05-2009 , 03:38 AM

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MafioItalio

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lol ya the japense alway taking picture of EVERYTHING its so funny, and they are alway like 20 :P

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12-09-2009 , 02:39 PM

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devitosghost

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Originally Posted by AcesFullMoon

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Originally Posted by Tehsauce

I think you are confusing Americans with Republicans. It's ok, everyone makes mistakes.

And I think you're confusing Republicans with people from the South.

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12-14-2009 , 09:00 AM

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Lets Get Stepn

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Originally Posted by omaha

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carry their cameras arround their necks, yet never take photos

I'm pretty sure thats asians.

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01-20-2010 , 05:33 AM

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omaha

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Originally Posted by Lets Get Stepn

I'm pretty sure thats asians.

Just to inform everyone, both american and japanese tourists always seem to have their cameras around their necks.

THe difference is in the ratio of photos taken by the japs to the yanks. According to my research, this seems to approach infinity, as the japs are happily snapping away, while the yanks never seem to take a single shot

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01-20-2010 , 02:09 PM

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FindaWay2Win

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ah the land of the free, i wish us europeans could enjoy the same freedom you americans have!

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01-20-2010 , 11:52 PM

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ToothPicker

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Originally Posted by omaha

Hm, U R from Australia. It's shoulda be one of those small European countries?
Let me explain ya brother. American poker playars are all reach enough to buy a books they like. We don't like free bonuses. That's why we excluded.

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01-21-2010 , 02:02 PM

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Yakmelk

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I guess its better to be safe than sorry, sucks for the US players but differences are ment to be (Anyone know why PS wont ship to EU some VIP Store items btw?)

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Originally Posted by ToothPicker

Hm, U R from Australia. It's shoulda be one of those small European countries?
Let me explain ya brother. American poker playars are all reach enough to buy a books they like. We don't like free bonuses. That's why we excluded.

I sure hope Iam leveling myself into this

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02-13-2010 , 06:29 PM

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ChevesFields

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Its always best to side with caution especially when you could be going up against uncle sam.

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02-15-2010 , 03:43 PM

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JMKeynesW1ns

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Originally Posted by FindaWay2Win

ah the land of the free, i wish us europeans could enjoy the same freedom you americans have!

LAWL

strong uncle sam.

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02-18-2010 , 08:51 AM

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ALuckyDuck

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Legality issues??

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03-26-2010 , 08:26 AM

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Brokerstar

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Originally Posted by FindaWay2Win

ah the land of the free, i wish us europeans could enjoy the same freedom you americans have!

LOL

It is a bit ironic that America is busy spreading democracy round the world yet doesn't offer their own citizens the same freedoms.

*Sigh*

I really hope this stupid law gets over turned in the very near future and the morality police get stuck into something else.

Good luck my colonial cousins.