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WSOP k, Turn TPTK and nut flush draw WSOP k, Turn TPTK and nut flush draw

06-16-2008 , 11:25 AM
My previous table just broke, so I join table 20 seat 6 on gobbo's direct left. I see maybe 6-7 hands @ the table when I raise UTG @ 300/600+75 9 handed w/ A K to 1700 w/ a stack of roughly 17k. It folds to seat 1 who flats and we see a flop HU

Flop comes JT7 two

Check, check

Turn comes A

I check and seat 1 pulls like a phil hellmuth AI and overbets AI after like 3 seconds for 10.5k or so into a pot of 4975. I?


Seat 1 is a middle aged indian guy, he just played a pot w/ gobbo where gobbo opened EP, seat 1 flat in position. Flop KJT two tone, check check, turn To, bet, call, river brick, bet, call, jimmy scoops w/ KJ and indian guy said he had KQ a couple seconds later commenting that gobbo was lucky. Note that the guy commented not in an angry or bitter way, but in a "meh, what can ya do, I had KQ" sort of way. So yea, that's all I got.

Last edited by mbe3; 06-16-2008 at 11:32 AM.
06-16-2008 , 11:42 AM
fistpumpcalll?
06-16-2008 , 12:20 PM
I don't think there's any way you can call here. You are certain the guy's not doing this with the NFD because you have the NFD. I think you're drawing to a flush here most of the time -- looks like 2 pair/set/baby flush to me. Plus he checked behind TP OESD against Gobbo, so he's capable of not betting big hands when checked to OTF.
06-16-2008 , 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wtf5
fistpumpcalll?
no
06-17-2008 , 05:06 PM
Bump.

Before I posted, I got some mixed opinions on this hand.
06-17-2008 , 06:24 PM
ugh idk
06-17-2008 , 07:04 PM
i call.
06-17-2008 , 07:40 PM
i'd fold, the other hand represents imo that he is more passive than aggressive w/ weak/marginal top pairs so i doubt he has any semibluffs or worse hands for value in his range.
06-17-2008 , 09:24 PM
Given your read I just tank for a very long time and try to pick something up on him (live read wise). From your description he seems like someone who might give up a lot.
06-17-2008 , 09:28 PM
I completely agree with Eagles and actually lean toward folding if he doesn't give anything up. I can't see much you're beating other than J Qx or some crap like that.
06-18-2008 , 07:58 AM
After thinking about it longer, there just arent many hands he can be semi bluffing with...
06-18-2008 , 09:08 PM
this is a very weird hand but i call, part of that though is the tournament dynamic where I feel like if I can fairly good equity here, doubling up is worth a lot more than sitting around with 25 bb... anyway that is the factor that makes me call, though reads-wise this is obviously tough. as i'm typing this though i start to feel like he shows up with 89, JT, or AT, though its hard to know whats in his pf range. now i'm thinking fold. this was a strange stream of consciousness.
06-18-2008 , 11:40 PM
Fold. He's protecting his hand (which is KQ or AT just about always.)
06-19-2008 , 02:08 AM
I think I'd call, I agree he's protecting his hand but I think theres a lot of AK/AQ in there and if he does have the 2 pair/set we have a lot of redraws.
06-19-2008 , 05:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Mac
I think I'd call, I agree he's protecting his hand but I think theres a lot of AK/AQ in there and if he does have the 2 pair/set we have a lot of redraws.
+1

      
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