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10-07-2010 , 06:12 PM

#26

aseHigh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FatsoFat6969

yeah gross but I think u can just fold and not tell anyone here... and I've never folded kings pre lifetime..

this and cry after and pray you never get into a spot like this again so early

10-07-2010 , 07:57 PM

#27

STJEAN81

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I've folded KK once preflop and the action was a similar nightmare. QQ put it in vs AA in that situation and I think this is another where I would fold it. The structure and everything else has alot to do with it too. We can all agree that a very very rare set of circumstances has to come along for us to fold KK pre and this is one of them.

10-07-2010 , 08:10 PM

#28

aseHigh

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I bumped this basically because of what you said: the 1k has such a good structure lately that this is a good and very rare spot where folding KK pre becomes a viable option

10-07-2010 , 08:20 PM

#29

twonine29

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If you're UTG or CO, are you also folding every hand but AA?

10-07-2010 , 09:43 PM

#30

Aruj Reis

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,688

sick spot.

This spot this early in this tournament I guess would be part of the .01% chance I fold KK pre. UTG probably the same thing unless I have a darn good read on BTN, and even then, there's the damn CO 3 better. In practice, the only times I've ever folded KK pre is timing out, falling asleep or something...

CO is getting just about 2.5:1 so I call anything that I would have 3 bet the UTG raiser with if it's going to be heads-up. OOP sucks though. Not sure what I can 5-bet jam now -- is it ever a bluff?

10-07-2010 , 10:14 PM

#31

stevepa

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I'd never fold in game (probably would call) because I'm bad at folding, but folding is almost certainly correct.

10-08-2010 , 12:04 AM

#32

rickyhoggy

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surprised by how many people are saying fold, i mean it is def not bad folding but i really think its closer than saying ez fold

10-08-2010 , 12:38 AM

#33

STJEAN81

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You do realize this is at 20/40 blinds with no ante right? And we're getting involved in a pot easily big enough to lose our entire 8k+ stack. The action is just WAY too much for this blind level. I would guess that there hasn't even been much 3 betting at all so far on this table and certainly no 4 betting. Especially when it goes utg 100, cut 475, and button is cold making it 1250 or whatever. This really is a fold, and believe me I would basically never fold KK

10-08-2010 , 12:59 AM

#34

Shavedcoidpurse

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how funny was it when UTG donk shoved qq got called by AA and a K hit the flop?

10-08-2010 , 05:40 AM

#35

aseHigh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shavedcoidpurse

how funny was it when UTG donk shoved qq got called by AA and a K hit the flop?

funny but irrelevant

10-08-2010 , 08:37 AM

#36

Preparac

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Reading this thread makes me definitly think I should cold4bet more often against good plyrs in the right spot.

Then on the other side I guess I'm already doin it to much (or in the wrong spots ...)

10-08-2010 , 11:33 AM

#37

timchuk

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,523

I have faced the exact same situation 2times. Once i had KK and shipped it in vs AA
Second time i had AA and shipped it in vs KK. If u are lucky enough to double up this early then you can really crush, but obviously it's never QQ unless u got a spewy player with history.

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