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09-07-2010 , 01:36 PM

rubenrtv

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Okay so we have no relevant history at all, and it's the 3rd hand I think of the High Roller. I don't have the hh but don't think I need it.

I open the btn with A

Ax to 150 with 10k stacks, cdbr3799 calls sb and bb folds. Flop comes Ax5

and he c/c 250 quite quickly. Turn 6x and he c/c 650, again quite quickly. River is the 3

and he leads 1500-1600 after about 15-20 seconds, I ?

All 3 options can be considered here imo. Which is one is the best?

09-07-2010 , 01:54 PM

STJEAN81

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Looks like a sigh dump to me....I'm not sure what made hands he turns in to a bluff here and think he's fairly comfortable c/c ing his drawing range in this structure.

09-07-2010 , 02:05 PM

higher_energy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,911

i like a shove. someone tell me its bad.

09-07-2010 , 02:15 PM

n4rf

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,722

agree with fold

09-07-2010 , 02:19 PM

BC62

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I think the only straight cards he gets to the river with are dd hands and he has the flush about always here, hardly ever the straight and lower sets sometimes

vs lower sets, a shove has little value, he's not calling often on that board

it's above my level, if you think he can lay down a low flush in this kind of event then gl with that

I can see a case for calling/folding, I prob call/hate my life

09-07-2010 , 02:32 PM

fivetypes

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Shove or fold. Calling seems pretty wank.

Shoving would be sexy as throwing in 2x pot this early really should maake him fold everything but the K high maybe Q flush pretty easily and its going to be difficult for him to have them.

If you wont go on lifetilt if he snaps you off with a straight flush or a low flush this early in such a good strucctured big buyin then do it imo.

09-07-2010 , 09:27 PM

NeverScaredB

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I don't see anything he would c/c two streets with and then turn into a bluff, and I can't see him v-betting much worse given his line, so I don't like calling. This seems like one of the better spots you'll ever get to make someone fold a small flush (in terms of it being a big BI where people actually think, etc), but CBDR is obviously v good, so it's a matter of how often he expects you to turn the naked Ad into a bluff here. If your image is solid I like a bluff. I think I'd make it 56-6400.

09-07-2010 , 11:42 PM

Eagles

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I'd fold bluffing is theoretically good, but in reality you get shrug called a lot, especially vs someone who is donking the river with flushes vs a good player.

09-08-2010 , 05:49 AM

Deoxyribo

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,028

I think he has a set

Because of that, I just call.
If I had AdXx then shoving would be super sexy but my balls aren't the size of watermelons so I'd fold. But I def think he has a set here enough to make this a call

09-08-2010 , 10:15 AM

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Preparac

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 528

Theese are not the buyins I'am used to but to think he has a set is just lol. Why anybody would slowplay a lower set otf and otr (whitout thinking to much about it) and then turn it into a bluff on this scary river ...? So calling is out of question

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