Sorry i can't get hand history b/c ub sux... ill try and describe hand best i can.

Me 5600
Villain 5025

ive been most active player on table but nothing too out of line. villain has been playing tight and hasnt done anything noteworthy. i do not recognize the name, but considerin its a 1k online he's prob. atleast decent.

25/50

i open hijack to 125 w/ 68. folds to villain on button who calls... every1 else folds.

Flop: 577 (pot 325)
200/Call
Turn: 9 (725)
500/Call
River: A (1725)
1175/Shove for 4200 total/I??

Ez fold?? one of those i have a bluff catcher but villain is never showing up w/ worse?

Do some of u guys check river?

i call...

I think youre right that checking river is better just to avoid this spot as youll still get value from a bare 7, Axss or a missed flush draw bluff and can limit the damage if hes got you beat, unless he shoves river anyway.

As played I guess at this level I fold but I dont like it.

I take the same line, and fold the river. Checking the river is just really bad your missing out on alot of value, and hes going to show down sooo many hands that might call a thin river bet. There are few hands that will call that large of a river bet that you beat. I would opt to bet smaller on the river 750-800 gets called by alot more then his range then 1175.

yeah call and if he does not show you a full house, you win!

edit: how much time did he take to shove? i mean snapshove, halfoftimebankshove etc.

1. Stop playing on that piece of **** site
2. Fold

i think it's really close your hand is stronger then just a bluff catcher imo. theres always a chance this guy is a sattelite player or taking an over the bankroll shot and is value shoving hands like Axss, or just a bare 7x here which randoms are sometimes capable of spazzing out that way.

Nicely played and fold now. And I'm sure bet/fold river is better than checking.

I disagree.
He could have a busted draw he wants to fire with.
he could have a worse hand he wants to value bet.
with the river being an ace it's somewhat hard for him to have a hand that will call a 3rd barrel but not bet the river if checked to (pretty much AsXs only)

so checking loses less when we are beat and might or might not win more when we are ahead.

Busted draws almost always have a pair on this board.
Almost everything that bets for value when checked to will call (or raise) a river bet.
Since so many people will assume our range is polarized I expect so many hero calls that would check behind the river.

I would think about folding a lot more if the river were say a jack, but an ace = call

interestin

The better the structure the more inclined I am to check the river. I think there is a ton of value in a bet, but when he shoves you just need to guess how big a clown he is and thats all you are really doing. So pot controlling to prevent this guessing game on the river ain't bad.

Adanthar dead on imo.

Btw I forgot to mention if villain has a boat it should be 99. Anyone agree?

i wouldn't be surprised to see: 55, 57, 77,79,99. ppl lub to slowplay

Easy bet/fold, randoms don't turn pairs into bluffs here and they're never shoving worse. So all we beat are the T9-KQ spades.

Yeah. There are spots where you don't want to bet/fold against randoms due to the possibility of getting unintentionally bluffed off the best hand, but this isn't one of them IMO.

Villain doesn't jam a bare 7 or a9....

i dont see what he has that beats us and isnt raising the turn? i guess newbs slow play to to the river sometimes but i think the standard is to raise boats/trips on the turn.... i call but im a station

i think i take your exact line (but probably bet slightly more on flop/turn but not really a big deal) and call river.

Agree 100%... and your bet sizing wasnt that absurd relative to pot size where it seems like your overbetting.. you could easily be getting shoved on by all 7s that think that you were double barreling with Ax and now vbetting. Also I think he can be bluffing a decent amount of the time, because I would shove this river and turn lost of hands into bluffs lol, knowing I can get a good player to fold most of their river range.

55,77,99 and maybe A7 imo. as played I still call river as well.

There's an NVG thread about poker books that will never be published. "Allen Bari on Folding" IMO

Tourney reg randos dont raise river without the nuts

Fold

wp til now just fold imo

If he has a bluff then we didnt have enough info on villain, imo

Something tells me he has dem pocket rockets!

Your damn right buddy... why fold when you can call, possibly be right, and if not, see what your opponent has, and learn from it? Answer that Todd, answer that!