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03-08-2010 , 02:36 AM
UB $120 20k. Gajillion tabling at this stage of the day, so no good reads or particular history with the villain. All I know is that by the turn when he nominal raises me on this texture I feel like I'm crushed, even though not a ton of holdings make sense for him. I guess he could limp AK/AA/KK UTG, but that's gotta be pretty slim, and otherwise we're folding to 55. However, how many hands actually raise like this that don't crush us. Thoughts?

Stage #84036331 Tourney ID 5116891 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 60 - 2010-03-08 14:08:36 (ET)
Table: 23 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 1 - JILL339 (2,665 in chips)
Seat 2 - FURION3 (2,905 in chips)
Seat 3 - POLETRAIN (5,480 in chips)
Seat 4 - MUCKTHENUTS (2,840 in chips)
Seat 5 - BETOOO (5,020 in chips)
Seat 6 - NICKC1313 (5,710 in chips)
Seat 7 - PLAYER_1113 (5,025 in chips)
Seat 8 - MPLIZZY2288 (4,030 in chips)
Seat 9 - HB_HITMAN (2,480 in chips)
MUCKTHENUTS - Posts small blind 30
BETOOO - Posts big blind 60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to MUCKTHENUTS [5d Kd]
NICKC1313 - Calls 60
PLAYER_1113 - Folds
MPLIZZY2288 - Calls 60
HB_HITMAN - Folds
JILL339 - Folds
FURION3 - Folds
POLETRAIN - Folds
MUCKTHENUTS - Calls 30
BETOOO - Checks
*** FLOP *** [As Kc 5c]
MUCKTHENUTS - Bets 180
BETOOO - Folds
NICKC1313 - Calls 180
MPLIZZY2288 - Folds
*** TURN *** [As Kc 5c] [3s]
MUCKTHENUTS - Bets 440
NICKC1313 - Raises 1,000 to 1,000
MUCKTHENUTS - Folds
03-08-2010 , 05:27 AM
id definitely see a river, think he has some silliness in his range or "slowing you down" with ax etc
03-08-2010 , 09:43 AM
with no reads and it being UB I would def. be looking to get this in.
Who knows wtf he's raising with, it's sunday right.. We would expect him to raise our lead on the flop with a set or 2pr due to flush draw no?
03-08-2010 , 06:11 PM
^^ agreed

Seems like you're giving too much credit here. He can have too many random hands, including all kinds of draws and worse hands betting for 'value'. I just shove, also considering your stack.
03-08-2010 , 10:04 PM
Three betting is def too thin, but you are getting such a good price and you still have four outs a lot and random clown factor etc. I call.
03-09-2010 , 03:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pudge714
Three betting is def too thin, but you are getting such a good price and you still have four outs a lot and random clown factor etc. I call.
im guessing also check call all in on river
03-09-2010 , 05:17 AM
your line is definitely fine, so's calling, and smaller on the turn is better imo
03-09-2010 , 05:52 AM
id prob start by checking the flop but betting is fine
as played, i think bet/folding the turn sucks
either call or get it in and id prob lean towards shoving it in for value from idiot - he can have 1 pair A or some club spade flush type stuff

      
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