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Thoughts on this triple barrel? Thoughts on this triple barrel?

03-20-2008 , 12:46 AM
Okay so I don't pull stuff like this a ton so ya know if it's awful be nice (but let me know it's awful.)

Anyway I have a TAGish image, villain is new to table haven't been involved yet. I got some chips recently raising KK and getting shoved on by QQ, that's all he's seen from me.

Flop seems straight forward, and turn only seems like a bet if i'm willing to fire blank rivers. On river i felt like a smaller bet is fine since he's folding his missed draws and adding another 1500 on top of my bet size isn't going to fold out a decent K that's calling me down. So thoughts?


Full Tilt Poker $30,000 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds - 6 players
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BB: t10010
Hero (UTG): t17388
MP: t7015
CO: t13134
BTN: t10518
SB: t17168

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with T J
Hero raises to t360, 1 fold, CO calls t360, BTN calls t360, 2 folds

Flop: (t1260) 9 K 7 (3 players)
Hero bets t825, CO calls t825, BTN folds

Turn: (t2910) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t1880, CO calls t1880

River: (t6670) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t2880
03-20-2008 , 12:51 AM
well i think id bet more on turn, and ya hes folding his draws, but hes prolly not folding A9 either. Seems ok overrall though.
03-20-2008 , 02:20 AM
i think 2880 looks weak and it might even induce a bluffraise from a draw. invest a little bit more and i like
03-20-2008 , 03:09 AM
if i was going to do this i'd bet bigger on flop, bigger on turn, jam river. my default is to c/f the turn cause the 3 is a non scary card, and people generally don't fold draws or pairs in $100 tournaments from my experience. on the river the only thing you fold out is bigger draws, and given the price he's getting and how big of a part of his range the bigger draws are i think it's a bad bluff.
03-20-2008 , 03:54 AM
I think I would even jam the turn but thats just me I feel...If he is going to dance lets dance. depending on what i have seen on this guy i would jam the flop thinking he would be playing suited ocnnectors and such.
03-20-2008 , 05:25 AM
dance DANCE!
03-20-2008 , 07:47 AM
bet more on river and i like it

lol at shoving turn or river, way too deep

you cant bet more on the flop unless you don't care about balancing ranges and are just gonna blast everyone out of this pot no matter what the turn/river is(spewtastic imo)
03-20-2008 , 07:58 AM
Anyone like a turn check (raise)?
03-20-2008 , 08:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by registrar
Anyone like a turn check (raise)?
against someone w/ history that's sexy...against a random no since they're checking behind here a huge %
03-20-2008 , 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikocruz
against someone w/ history that's sexy...against a random no since they're checking behind here a huge %

Getting two free cards with the draw they don't expect us to have isn't a disaster.
03-20-2008 , 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by registrar
Getting two free cards with the draw they don't expect us to have isn't a disaster.

The goal is to win the pot, not get two free pulls at a double-gutter.

Against some opponents checking the turn is correct, but I like a two/three-barrel here more times than not.
03-20-2008 , 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luckychewy
if i was going to do this i'd bet bigger on flop, bigger on turn, jam river. my default is to c/f the turn cause the 3 is a non scary card, and people generally don't fold draws or pairs in $100 tournaments from my experience. on the river the only thing you fold out is bigger draws, and given the price he's getting and how big of a part of his range the bigger draws are i think it's a bad bluff.
This isn't HU cash, cashdonk.

Last edited by Bond18; 03-20-2008 at 10:59 AM.
03-20-2008 , 11:06 AM
I don't like this at all. I think a lot of draws will raise the flop, since it's pretty hard for you to continue w/o AK+ or big heart draw, so you can somewhat discount draws from his hand. Also turn is such a blank, it can't give him more outs, unless he has 65. If he called 2 streets with KJ or TT, he is not likely to fold on the river. Plus, ZJ mentioned already, your river bet size might induce a raise (i wouldn't bluff-raise in that spot though)
03-20-2008 , 11:32 AM
Agree with everyone to bet more on the river and it's fine. Disagree with Enzyme, Bond c-bet into two people here on a coordinated board, I think a lot of draws are going to give him credit for a hand and peel rather than raise OTF.
03-20-2008 , 11:53 AM
Todd, you make a valid point. I misread the hand, thought it was HU. Guess it somewhat invalidates my reasoning =( OTOH, I wouldn't expect Bond to check flop too often.
03-20-2008 , 11:55 AM
Chewy isn't just being a nit he is right.
03-20-2008 , 12:06 PM
fwiw, kindv an aside, but you aren't obligated to bet the flop.
03-20-2008 , 02:02 PM
bet slightly more on the turn and definitely bet more on the river... i also think the idea of a turn check raise could be very nice, because i really don't see villain being all that strong here (KQ max)
03-20-2008 , 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pudge714
Chewy isn't just being a nit he is right.
Quote:
Originally Posted by luckychewy
fwiw, kindv an aside, but you aren't obligated to bet the flop.
+1

      
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