27 left, 20 entries $5200, 21st 530, 22nd 470. Fall asleep on our fold button or get it in here? Average is around 22000.


Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t350/t700 Blinds + t85 - 8 players
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iownoknp (BTN): t20565 M = 11.89
datrip1 (SB): t9072 M = 5.24
Hero (BB): t42079 M = 24.32
Tagult (UTG): t10216 M = 5.91
bukithepro (UTG+1): t22293 M = 12.89
rsxpunk (MP1): t30235 M = 17.48
Altrum Altus (MP2): t13551 M = 7.83
RonaldKosh (CO): t17446 M = 10.08

Pre Flop: (t1730) Hero is BB with Q Q
3 folds, Altrum Altus raises to t1699, 1 fold, iownoknp raises to t20480 all in, 1 fold

seems like a snap fold w/ ur stack and only 7 to go

doh i knew i recognised your name today in a step 6. your ss graph looks fun.

EDIT: and oh, fold the queens.

Fold.

I know it sucks, but I feel pretty strongly this is a fold.

In general for satellites, if you can get to what average stack will be when all the seats are given out, you can basically coast with that stack for roughly the rest of the tournament.

Avg stack for the final 20 players is around 30k and you have that well covered with 42k - You can basically fold all day and get your seat still.

I don't think risking half your stack is the right move here, even with qq, since you could be flipping for half your stack and then need to make up some ground to ensure you get a seat if you lose.

I think a really interesting question would be what to do with KK - I have no idea what I would do in that situation, I'd have to think about it.

i think kk is a pretty easy jam but like you said with Q Q and his stack he has no reason to shove it even though he might be in great shape.

it's a fold and not close... i'd fold KK too

you can fold in easily

this feels like KK+

yup pretty much what i was thinking.

YOU have a fold button ???

I would fold kings here. Queens I'm not even thinking about.

I also fold Kings in this situation.
You get your prize;if villain had me covered I would fold Aces.

feels like aa+ but is there any reason to even play aa? like 42k should do it as others pointed out.

against even an aggressive range for villain jj+ and ak+ youre a coin flip. fold and chances of getting a seat are +/- 90%. call and win its closer to 100%/call and lose its about 60% or so. i'd fold any two cards including aa here cus the incremental value of those chips dont dramatically increase your chances of winning. look for spots to pick on mid stacks with any two cards if you feel compelled to play , but fold here

Agree this is an easy fold with your stack.

no offense but this and the AKs hand are really really really bad

lol

this is a snap fold, kk is a fold too.

aces prob are too tbh, but i suck at sats in game and would never make that one.

None taken I'm asking for advice for a reason. I suck at these things and hate hate hate the bubble of them.

iirc, the KJ shove was too...

But how about this one when I was 18/21? I wasn't sure wtf to do here but I think this line was probably optimal?


Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 7 players
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fergwrx (MP): t22950 M = 8.05
datrip1 (CO): t30042 M = 10.54
bokertov40 (BTN): t15664 M = 5.50
lbh26 (SB): t2172 M = 0.76
jcamby33 (BB): t78552 M = 27.56
Hero (UTG): t14871 M = 5.22
kAmIkAdZeEe (UTG+1): t35346 M = 12.40

Pre Flop: (t2850) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero calls t1200, kAmIkAdZeEe calls t1200, 1 fold, datrip1 calls t1200, 2 folds, jcamby33 checks

Flop: (t6450) 2 4 A (4 players)
jcamby33 checks, Hero checks, kAmIkAdZeEe bets t1200, datrip1 calls t1200, jcamby33 folds, Hero folds

Turn: (t8850) T (2 players)
kAmIkAdZeEe checks, datrip1 checks

River: (t8850) 7 (2 players)
kAmIkAdZeEe checks, datrip1 checks

dude just shove, this table was playing weird and you dont want to be seeing a 4 way pot or some **** and these chips are super important to you with your stack size.

I dont remember exact stack sizes with the KJ hand but remember thinking that i needed to chip up a little bit and since he is only calling with QQ+ most likely and i have a blocker, but im interested in why you think its a fold

WTF???


This is an open fold before its a limp - thats just endangering your whole stack with more risk. Right now you have enough chips to survive for about 35 more hands just blinding down, which might be close, but I think has got to be enough to outlast the final player.

At the very least, shove instead of limping so that you can get an extra orbit of hands from the blinds that you win. Limping seems like it has to be higher variance than shoving.

assumig that BTN is still rejamming a 20k stack when the final avg wil be abround 30k.

how short do we have to be to get it in happily here?

i assume really short to the point that we just cant forego a "good" (in cev terms) spot like this anymore since we need chips. what about us having a 16k stack? 22k? 10k?

technically its at whatever point the ev versus the ranges is higher than his likelyhood of winning the tourney right now

Villain is tight(and I'm assuming quite/very competent at sats) and in case there was any discussion, hes playing KK+ this way 100% of the time

the iwontoh or whatever guy? i think he had something lol like A10s and obv won the hand

this is a supereasy fold, pretty sure AA is a fold too