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09-09-2011 , 10:48 PM

Rajon Rando

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No reads on villain...stats are blocked on opr

PokerStars Game #67257242437: Tournament #437010445, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2011/09/09 10:16:47 PT [2011/09/09 13:16:47 ET]
Table '437010445 50' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: torkolort1 (2345 in chips)
Seat 2: rckyu (3235 in chips)
Seat 3: PearlJammer (3090 in chips)
Seat 4: Ouwesss (2955 in chips)
Seat 5: pokinho18 (2935 in chips)
Seat 6: wejo13 (3585 in chips)
Seat 7: Dancakeee (2820 in chips)
Seat 8: Cotchery89 (2540 in chips)
Seat 9: clayton0719 (3495 in chips)
wejo13: posts small blind 15
Dancakeee: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cotchery89 [Ac Qs]
Cotchery89: raises 60 to 90
clayton0719: folds
torkolort1: folds
rckyu: calls 90
PearlJammer: folds
Ouwesss: folds
pokinho18: folds
wejo13: folds
Dancakeee: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Kc Qc Qd]
Dancakeee: checks
Cotchery89: bets 142
rckyu: calls 142
Dancakeee: folds
*** TURN *** [Kc Qc Qd] [7d]
Cotchery89: bets 284
rckyu: calls 284
*** RIVER *** [Kc Qc Qd 7d] [9h]
Cotchery89: bets 928
rckyu: raises 1791 to 2719 and is all-in
Cotchery89: ?

09-09-2011 , 10:51 PM

Chuck Bass

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He's 2+2 and I'd say you're boned.

09-09-2011 , 11:02 PM

slystyle012

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Seems like a tough spot at first glance but as Chuck says hes 2+2 and I highly doubt he has anything that you beat here. We don't beat much here and I highly doubt he shoves with QT/QJ...as he would probably call with those hands. I bet he has JT here tons!

09-10-2011 , 01:05 AM

theguru

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folding for sure

09-10-2011 , 02:03 AM

Soepgroente

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slystyle012

I bet he has JT here tons!

Probably flats JT on the river and has KQ or KK here a lot.

10-03-2011 , 05:02 AM

rckyu

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fml

10-03-2011 , 08:29 AM

aseHigh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rckyu

fml

lol the part where you have JT is such fun

10-03-2011 , 08:36 AM

rckyu

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I didnt have JT tho

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10-03-2011 , 09:25 AM

aseHigh

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well it was obv what you had at "fml" , nh , rough fold if he did fold lol

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10-03-2011 , 09:54 AM

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rckyu

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Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10747902

MP1: 2,345 (78.2 bb)
Hero (MP2): 3,235 (107.8 bb)
MP3: 3,090 (103 bb)
CO: 2,955 (98.5 bb)
BTN: 2,935 (97.8 bb)
SB: 3,585 (119.5 bb)
BB: 2,820 (94 bb)
UTG+1: 2,540 (84.7 bb)
UTG+2: 3,495 (116.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K

UTG+1 raises to 90, 2 folds, Hero calls 90, 4 folds, BB calls 60

Flop: (285) K

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets 142, Hero calls 142, BB folds

Turn: (569) 7

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets 284, Hero calls 284

River: (1,137) 9

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets 928, Hero raises to 2,719 and is all-in, UTG+1 folds

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10-03-2011 , 02:00 PM

#11

aseHigh

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owned, I thought there was a Q in the picture

10-03-2011 , 05:02 PM

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Rajon Rando

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thanks for results

10-03-2011 , 05:16 PM

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Oscar Belgium

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I think 3 streets of value is a little optimistic here

river is pbb a c/f over a bet/decide and if ur gonna bet its def a b/f here

10-03-2011 , 05:34 PM

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Wizard-50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar Belgium

I think 3 streets of value is a little optimistic here

river is pbb a c/f over a bet/decide and if ur gonna bet its def a b/f here

C/f? Whut? B/f > c/c >>> c/f

10-03-2011 , 10:49 PM

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NeverScaredB

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c/f is definitely fine on the river against competent TAGs

10-03-2011 , 10:56 PM

#16

Wizard-50

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If youre giving him JT then you can certainly give him worse queens that he is vbetting. Likewise if you give him occasional KK combos then you can give him AA and AK with similar frequencies. Obv clubs can bluff sometimes too. I dont see check/folding...

10-04-2011 , 08:20 AM

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Oscar Belgium

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lol.........thought board was KKQ x 9

pbb b/f

10-07-2011 , 11:05 PM

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smokrokflock

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2/3 pot flop. 3/5ish turn. go bigger this deep on that texture oop.

10-08-2011 , 08:34 AM

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Todd Terry

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverScaredB

c/f is definitely fine on the river against competent TAGs

Nah. Good bet/fold.

10-08-2011 , 09:11 AM

#20

Nederlander

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizard-50

Wouldnt a c/call be better than if he Vbets all his Qx and bluffs sometimes with clubs?

I would b/f river.

10-08-2011 , 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nederlander

Wouldnt a c/call be better than if he Vbets all his Qx and bluffs sometimes with clubs?

I would b/f river.

Assign ranges for him vbetting, checking back, and bluffing. Then the frequencies for each. My intuition is b/f is a bit better than c/c

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