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10-20-2009 , 08:48 AM

CaliStyle

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With how many BB's are you guys shoving in a tourney when you are opening with a short stack? At how many BB's are you just making a standard raise? Anything under 20? Opening regular with anything over 20BB? Also an explanation with when antes are involved as well.

10-20-2009 , 10:28 AM

Truckin

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Once antes are involved,it is shove time due to the blinds being so high.

We start out short so I sometimes start betting like a donk early to entice higher betting.
For example betting 10x blind when the blinds are 20/40.
People will fold the first time and possibly the second but will eventually call or re-raise
after getting pissed of.You can set the tone of your table or abuse them till they do
start to play this way.

I will shove AA early in $50 and lower tourneys,since you will get a call alot of the time.
People think you are just gambling.

10-20-2009 , 10:33 AM

CaliStyle

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What is your shove range in regard to position with less than 20BB?

10-20-2009 , 12:23 PM

trymyk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truckin

{x} Terrible advice
{x} Not what he was asking

10-20-2009 , 12:59 PM

Abbaddabba

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the smallest stack that you dont open shove with is the smallest stack that you might be raise/folding with.

with an opening raise of 2.5, the cutoff seems to be somewhere between 10 and 15 blinds for no antes and between 15 and 20 with antes. unless the antes are bigger than usual, and then it probably is a bit higher.

even though antes double the amount of dead money, people dont adjust their opening raise sizes so the actual money in the pot is less than double when action gets back around to you (which is why you dont see the figures double).

10-20-2009 , 01:01 PM

Truckin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trymyk

{x} Terrible advice
{x} Not what he was asking

Great input.

So answer his question.
Or tell me why its terrible and I will give you my reasoning.
Otherwise,you just made a pointless post.

10-20-2009 , 04:12 PM

carrwreck11

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truckin that was just awful advice, imo

10-20-2009 , 04:34 PM

Truckin

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What I meant to say is open your table up,nit tables are blinded off tables.
Doesnt help anyone to sit back when you are Short stacked from the get.

The advice was poorly written and was juggling a few tasks at once.
Sorry.

10-20-2009 , 04:40 PM

jon_midas

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truckin

Every line of this is gold
You're really a gem
Please post more so I can smile

(Garth, I think that was a Haiku)

10-20-2009 , 06:05 PM

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CaliStyle

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I agree the advice was terrible with opening for 10x that is why I ignored it and just asked what the opening hand range is for him. Although his play with aces has some merit as you can get people to call you all in early with AK and some weak hands, so three and four bet shoving work against some pretty bad players in early stages.

10-20-2009 , 07:07 PM

#11

MaverickUSC

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truckin

do this

10-20-2009 , 08:39 PM

#12

DFish

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Whoever is behind the Truckin levels is brilliant.

10-20-2009 , 11:33 PM

#13

no_clue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliStyle

You are in the wrong forum. This is a basic beginners question. A lot of basic questions can be answered in the mtt strat forum by some decent players. Every once in awhile the high stakes regs will toss you a bone too in that forum.

Try reading the FAQ for some basic stuff and some poker books might benefit you also. Good luck man.

If the mods would move this thread.

10-21-2009 , 01:27 AM

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Th3_S1aught3r

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truckin are you 4real?

When im not r/f I shove up to 20bbs, if that was your question

10-21-2009 , 10:41 AM

#15

CaliStyle

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no clue was not for the MTT section, was wondering what the players who player high buy-ins are doing?

Mods do not move thread.

Thank you

10-21-2009 , 10:50 AM

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ssnyc

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Quote:

Originally Posted by no_clue

lol

10-21-2009 , 03:36 PM

#17

smokrokflock

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all of the hof hsmtt tournament posters itt

10-21-2009 , 04:06 PM

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JonHizall

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ill never have a legit reason to post here but that response was awesome level or not

10-21-2009 , 05:27 PM

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ULOST2AKID

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truckin is amazing, "i shove AA b/c people think ur gambling"

thread reminds me why i love 2+2

10-21-2009 , 05:39 PM

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LetMeLive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliStyle

all of these questions depend on too many variables to answer in a single 2p2 post

but basically everything you asked can range from great to terrible depending on the table and the way it is playing

also, some plays are better on some sites than others

10-21-2009 , 07:54 PM

#21

Steve Williams

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1. grind sngpt
2. ???
3. profit

10-21-2009 , 10:26 PM

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Bakedbean87

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(1)what is the smallest M you guys are willing to make a steal and cbet with?
(2) you ever 3bet 92offf?
(3)have you ever watched youporn while multitabling and accidently jizzed looking at 92off when the table popped up?

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