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04-24-2008 , 02:05 AM

shaundeeb

Augie's stunt double

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 16,232

Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2000/t4000 Blinds - 8 players
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deep in stars 50/50 I am top 5 stack so is villian bet sizing scared me into calling down he snapshoved river so I folded like a vag

SB: t184651
BB: t256859
UTG: t68769
Hero (UTG+1): t222882
MP1: t191347
MP2: t91830
CO: t127563
BTN: t46033

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with K

1 fold, Hero raises to t9999, 5 folds, BB raises to t28000, Hero calls t18001

Flop: (t61200) Q

(2 players)
BB bets t24000, Hero calls t24000

Turn: (t109200) 7

(2 players)
BB bets t40000, Hero calls t40000

River: (t189200) Q

(2 players)
BB bets t164459 all in, Hero folds

04-24-2008 , 02:08 AM

charder30

formerly known as zj123

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 27,428

id jam turn.

04-24-2008 , 02:33 AM

Todd Terry

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 16,301

KK > AK on this board on the river IMO. The river instajam is just very, very weird. Would he instajam with AA here? No way. AQ? I'd discount it given preflop, and wouldn't he at least give some thought before instajamming the river? Instajam with TT makes sense hoping you have AQ. I think this is most likely, Q comes, now I know Shaun doesn't have QQ, let's jam and make him fold with AK or whatever else he happened to have, like JJ.

04-24-2008 , 02:41 AM

mellyy85

banned

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,204

donkey deeb

04-24-2008 , 03:40 AM

w33ktight

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,320

im raising somewhere before the river...

04-24-2008 , 05:57 AM

HIV

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,547

wow i would call that riv for sure

04-24-2008 , 06:51 AM

Mench

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,038

fine if you trust your read

04-24-2008 , 06:55 AM

Th4nir

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 383

how about coming over the top preflop? with like 66.000 you still give him the opportunity to try to bluff you off. rox especially if you have 4bet or even better 4bet/folded him before

04-24-2008 , 07:16 AM

registrar

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,886

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaundeeb

bet sizing scared me fine

he snapshoved river so I folded like a vag because you put him on..?

I just don't think that we are behind enough combos that betsize like this and snapshove the third barrel

04-24-2008 , 07:38 AM

#10

rcrane

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 231

I think ur line is fine, i might shove turn depending on my image and the type of player he is..but I think we need a little more info about this hand TBH, have u been raising in EP a lot? is he aggressive? Has he seen u playing very aggressive. If any of these are yes, i think im calling here on the river, if not, well then its a bit tougher, but given the fact i am not giving him credit for AA unless hes a good player, and tough to give him credit for Q, i dont think im folding ever here actually.

04-24-2008 , 06:56 PM

#11

Steve Williams

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,738

I think some of you are overthinking the bet sizing. This is the 50/50; the average player in this tourney doesn't plan out their bets on every street. It may seem like a weird line to a thinking player, but so often villain's thought process is only "I have nuts, I get value". I concede AK is part of his range, but if he's silly enough to play AK this way, he's silly enough to play trips/boats this way too. Folding seems fine.

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