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late in sunday mill AQ pre flat lead to  tough decision late in sunday mill AQ pre flat lead to  tough decision

10-10-2010 , 09:45 PM
Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t3000/t6000 Blinds + t600 - 9 players
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MP1: t116367 M = 8.08
MP2: t14560 M = 1.01
CO: t121513 M = 8.44
BTN: t148324 M = 10.30
Hero (SB): t198796 M = 13.81
BB: t208991 M = 14.51
UTG: t142413 M = 9.89
UTG+1: t320430 M = 22.25
UTG+2: t281810 M = 19.57

Pre Flop: (t14400) Hero is SB with Q A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t12900, 1 fold, MP1 calls t12900, 3 folds, Hero calls t9900, BB calls t6900

Flop: (t57000) A 6 8 (4 players)
Hero bets t25000, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to t66000, MP1 folds, Hero ...


UTG+1 has been fairly active, but he hasnt showed any junk hands either he's ABI $109 over a pretty small sample... Mp+1 seemed pretty tight passive , didnt fold to many 3bets so far from anyone if he had put in something.

raise here pre everytime in this spot?
donking flop is good/bad here?

Last edited by fchenri; 10-10-2010 at 09:57 PM.
10-10-2010 , 09:56 PM
I think you should 3 bet pre. As to whether or not to call if UTG+1 4 bets would have to be based on gameflow, timing..etc

As played its really sticky. Call initially.

Id probably check the flop first time round though.
10-10-2010 , 10:02 PM
how much is good amount here to 3bet pre?
if i did 3bet i would bet ~36-39k
10-10-2010 , 10:20 PM
check flop, 3bet/call mp1 pre
10-11-2010 , 09:19 AM
c flop as played cause leading is kinda putting us in bad spots when he raises that flop and you have no clue how good AQ is .., pre make it 44780/call a shove and/or play fit or fold post cause there wont be much room if he somehow flats

if utg folds and MP1 shoves/calls just shove any flop after
10-11-2010 , 09:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ndahlhoff10
check flop, 3bet/call mp1 pre
huh ? are you folding to a 4b shove by utg+1 ? 3bting 40-45k ?
10-11-2010 , 10:29 AM
yea, i 3bet here 85-90% of the time probably pre , just thought i would flat and "mix it up" ( ) which leaves me in a STICKY SITUATION on the flop.

Quote:
c flop as played cause leading is kinda putting us in bad spots when he raises that flop and you have no clue how good AQ is
i see , but if i check flop and he bets 35k ish , is c/r or c/c better?
10-11-2010 , 10:41 AM
Always 3 bet here, it would be alot closer if MP hadn't flatted
10-11-2010 , 11:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aseHigh
huh ? are you folding to a 4b shove by utg+1 ? 3bting 40-45k ?
misread stacks, don't think so
10-11-2010 , 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fchenri
yea, i 3bet here 85-90% of the time probably pre , just thought i would flat and "mix it up" ( ) which leaves me in a STICKY SITUATION on the flop.



i see , but if i check flop and he bets 35k ish , is c/r or c/c better?
it could go either way and it depends as well on what MP1 does, if hes aggro post I'd c/c , if you feel he'll stack off lighter, then c/r
10-11-2010 , 03:28 PM
okey ty for your input!

      
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