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JJ vs reg 60k gtd ftp JJ vs reg 60k gtd ftp

10-15-2010 , 02:37 PM
Hand from 162$ frez on ftp:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $800(BB) Replayer
SB ($43,648)
BB ($33,407)
Hero ($34,048)
UTG+1 ($27,742)
UTG+2 ($32,950)
MP1 ($17,175)
CO ($14,036)
BTN ($31,948)

Dealt to Hero J J

Hero raises to $1,719, UTG+1 raises to $4,338, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero ????

fold, 4b/c

UTG+1 is a whatariver1. he's on tighter side i quess. I opened utg couple of times.(4-5 times) Hand before i opened 44 and and i win pf. We dont have to much history but i think he recognizes me.

Any tho ?? 4b/c ? fold ? shove ?

We are close to bubble about 50 left, 45 ITM.
10-15-2010 , 02:53 PM
With some many shorter stacks behind and given position + sizing I would say this is never a bluff.. Add in he is on the tighter side I would give him JJ+ AQs-AKo+.. Discount your JJ and half AQs combos and run that through poker stove is probaly close to your equity. I would do it but not at home.

As is I'd release and not tell anybody..
10-15-2010 , 07:58 PM
There is absolutely no way in hell I'm folding. I am shoving this 100%. Remember that a LOT of good regs are just calling AA/KK here.
10-15-2010 , 08:00 PM
We're 36% vs JJ-AA,AK. How often does he have to be 3b/folding?
10-15-2010 , 09:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanghall
There is absolutely no way in hell I'm folding. I am shoving this 100%. Remember that a LOT of good regs are just calling AA/KK here.
this + he isnt tag at all, quite the opposite
10-15-2010 , 10:34 PM
gl...hes wider than you think here
10-16-2010 , 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanghall
There is absolutely no way in hell I'm folding. I am shoving this 100%. Remember that a LOT of good regs are just calling AA/KK here.
Yeam but i mean if u shove u cant take value from his bluff shoves. If he recognizes me can he light shove after 4b to sthh like 9k ??

Or u shove 100% of your range here ??
10-16-2010 , 08:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanghall
There is absolutely no way in hell I'm folding. I am shoving this 100%. Remember that a LOT of good regs are just calling AA/KK here.
exactly
10-16-2010 , 09:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by simon1989
Yeam but i mean if u shove u cant take value from his bluff shoves. If he recognizes me can he light shove after 4b to sthh like 9k ??

Or u shove 100% of your range here ??
If you 4bet it makes it look like you have exactly what you have - a premium. Will also suck if he calls and the flop is 2 overs
10-17-2010 , 06:24 AM
Just 4b/c or jam here for sure...

      
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