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04-09-2012 , 04:03 PM

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Steve Haris

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Terry

Watch where you put your "like", Steve. Those who don't know of your adoration for psychobenny might think you're calling him a dolt.

ohhh wow....ya i mean blade lags (like psychobenny) when deep in mtts with dolts obv....

04-09-2012 , 04:20 PM

#27

Pudge714

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Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 39,104

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordankickz

I realize how my point might seem counterintuitive as clearly you open more from the btn therefore there is more 3betting from the blinds thus more 4betting, but I feel like it just broadens peoples value ranges for the most part meaning that the button is 4bet/calling AT now and 4bet/folding less. People also just hood the blinds a lot more now compared to 3bet/f.

Your ranges are also quite a bit off for todays online tourney game (both players in this hand are online regs), things are a lotttt different than they were when you were playing.

It's not just about wider three betting ranges it's about much wider potential 4 bet bluffing ranges. If I am raising 12% UTG and think a three better is three betting too much I can 4B/Call or just rip it with at least 40% of my opening range. If you are raising like 70% of buttons you aren't going to be able to successfully 4b/call with J7s. So even if you expand your value 4b/calling range a ton from LP you will never come close to the 4b/calling frequency you have with your EP opens. That creates a lot more potential opportunities to 4bet bluff because you have so many more hands you can't 4bet call.

Last edited by Pudge714; 04-09-2012 at 04:23 PM. Reason: Of course you can also call three bets.

04-09-2012 , 05:22 PM

#28

railtard1

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 61

like his 3/5 there tbh. I had bottom of my 4/call range and nearly puked wen i saw 44. Moaned it on tho, thought was drawing dead after the flop bricked.
The field was pretty sick with like 40 left, but i busted 13th, andrew 19th, roothlus like 15th, Jdpc 16th, lonehixx 25th and cal4268 like 30th.
The final is full of irish qualifiers :-(

04-09-2012 , 09:57 PM

#29

highlandfox

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,366

STD

04-09-2012 , 11:58 PM

#30

jordankickz

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,912

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudge714

Yeah, good post. I still think my point still has merit though for a few reasons: You can and will call 3bets otb quite a bit more than when you open in ep. I think people will 4b/f their more playable hands (QJs types) from ep way way more than they will from the button. People are also very aware of everything you said which results in less 4bet bluffing for fear of people 3b/5b very wide for value and as bluffs.

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