Hi guys, this is 250€ MTT played on ps.es
Table is pretty weak, explains my open(i think is a standard open so deep, might be wrong?)
V seems to be some kind of a reg (doesn´t seem to be very good), pretty loose and passive runing 29/15 over 130 hands or so: Folds to flop cbet 57% and turn 29% (small sample i guess), so because of that i decided to go on a bigger side (ott)
Now, i have no idea what´s best ?
Feel free to ask for more info.


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $232.24 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35291661

BB: 14,970 (124.8 bb)
UTG+1: 11,775 (98.1 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 13,865 (115.5 bb)
MP1: 14,985 (124.9 bb)
MP2: 3,043 (25.4 bb)
MP3: 16,715 (139.3 bb)
CO: 14,944 (124.5 bb)
BTN: 23,524 (196 bb)
SB: 11,040 (92 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9 J
UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 300, 4 folds, BTN calls 300, SB folds, BB calls 180

Flop: (1,095) 8 T 7 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 591, BTN calls 591, BB folds

Turn: (2,277) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets 1,776, BTN calls 1,776

River: (5,829) 5 (2 players)
[color="red"] Hero ????

looks like a nobrainer b/f to me.

2850/fold

More flop
C/f now

If you are willing to call a river bet put your price like itradepoker said!
Otherwise you can check/fold but it seems very weak .If they are weak as you say they can easily follow with a good T!

Wait why da fuq would we c/f? Ez 2999/f

Easy check call

check/call....and win vs TJ,10 9,Ah10o,56s,2 pairs floped...

I think Chk/call is prolly the worst play we can do here against an unknown.

Its pretty ambitious to expect any decent player to bet for value w/ JT,T9 once we check the river, lol. If we happen to check, and he bets, it becomes closer to a chk/fold, than chk/call imo. Depends on his sizing ofcourse.

I think we should be betting bigger on the flop in general as we are pretty deep and we prolly have a polarized betting range here?

Prolly wont go that big on turn, but def bigger than half pot. ~1400-1500 is good.

On the river I will prolly go for a bet against unknown/weak player, but def. not a big bet as the card is scary for him too and our line in general will look strong. ~40%, so we can get hero called by JJ/QQ, and some strong Tx.

its worst river card in the deck
so I think we shouldnt vb all straights thin unless we figure how our b/c range looks like which is hard to do vs unknown thus since we have better straights to b/f we can c/f this one and dont feel too bad about it.

Agreed c/c otr is nutworst.

How could this ever be a c/f. How many heart combos does he get to the river that played this way, that dont raise flop. Maybe 4?

should say, that don't get another bet in somewhere

We are over 100 BBs deep and he is IP. Why should he raise ANY fd on the flop? Especially if he thinks that we are prolly not randomly cbetting that type of board, and we are strong once we do?

Not saying all fd's raise flop. Saying some do, some % of time, given sizing w plyr to act, some raise prf, and I think some bare fd's fold turn. I think there are more combos of Tx, 2pr, ppr's that comprise his range by river.

Im not saying we should chk/fold this. What Im saying is that, IF we check, it becomes closer to a chk/fold than chk/call since, altho, he is prolly getting to the river w/ more non flush combos than flush combos, he is not betting them all.

And I do think that he is not raising any FD till river that deep IP. Altho it would be powerful to raise it and bet/bet turn/river I dont think many players will do that.

I kinda forgot about this thread, i think vs a passive player bet/f should be the strategy here, but i hate my sizing.
After tanking river about 1 minute, V folded.
Is it possible that he might folded a baby flush here? Did we just turned our straight into bluff lol ?
I mean river is the worst card in the deck, from what are we getting value ?
To many questions, i know

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $232.24 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35391531

BB: 14,970 (124.8 bb)
UTG+1: 11,775 (98.1 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 13,865 (115.5 bb)
MP1: 14,985 (124.9 bb)
MP2: 3,043 (25.4 bb)
MP3: 16,715 (139.3 bb)
CO: 14,944 (124.5 bb)
BTN: 23,524 (196 bb)
SB: 11,040 (92 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9 J
UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 300, 4 folds, BTN calls 300, SB folds, BB calls 180

Flop: (1,095) 8 T 7 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 591, BTN calls 591, BB folds

Turn: (2,277) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets 1,776, BTN calls 1,776

River: (5,829) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets 3,946, BTN folds

Bet/fold is the pretty obvious choice , however I dislike sizing (and Im an advocate for bigger sizing in general) Would go 3250 tops

In CG - yes, in tournament - not necessarily, although I certainly don't hate it

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I'd c/f and feel fine about it

bet 4k /fold river