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11-20-2008 , 04:45 PM

SNG grind_15

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Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 9 players
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CO: t27005
BTN: t41947
SB: t7723
BB: t10944
UTG: t17959
UTG+1: t14070
UTG+2: t37407
Hero (MP1): t9179
MP2: t22019

Pre Flop: (t1350) Hero is MP1 with 8

3 folds, Hero raises to t1600, 1 fold, CO raises to t26955 all in, 3 folds, Hero calls t7529 all in

Flop: (t19608) K

(2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t19608) 9

(2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t19608) K

(2 players - 2 are all in)

When I raised here I pretty much decided I wasn't going to fold Should I fold to this lame push here? like 95 left with 63 paying. Anyone prefer shove preflop?

11-20-2008 , 05:03 PM

riverdance

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When I raised here I pretty much decided I wasn't going to fold

then just shove your 15 bb's

11-20-2008 , 05:20 PM

4ObliVioN4

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^^ my exact thoughts when i read the op. and i certainly wouldnt fold to the shove.

11-20-2008 , 05:59 PM

SNG grind_15

journeyman

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Yeh I thought about it, I would for sure do it with same amount of bb's at 200-400 but the ante at 300-600 is so lame.

11-20-2008 , 06:01 PM

ASPoker8

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I think raise/calling might be slightly better than shoving. Obviously depends on opponents and other stuff, but w no information I'd probably raise w the intention of calling any action unless something wacky happened.

11-20-2008 , 08:23 PM

supergood1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASPoker8

This. Some idiot might reship 55 when he would definitely fold it to shove.

Edit- I really hope I dont end up reshipping 55 in this spot sometime soon.

11-21-2008 , 12:14 PM

vm1124

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+1 for open shoving. Although pushing will most likely fold out some lower pairs you want in, I think with 88 you want more folds i.e dont want someone restealing QJs etc. Also with raising to 1600 you run the risk of being flatted abunch. 88 is probably the best hand I'd open shove here 99 I'd raise/call.

11-21-2008 , 01:03 PM

The Universe

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ASpoker is right...its close but raise call is slightly better.

11-21-2008 , 01:51 PM

SNG grind_15

journeyman

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So everyone is calling this Huge push? I mean if someone with like 10k shoves its easy call, but was little unsure of this huge bet.

11-21-2008 , 02:17 PM

#10

GeoffRas22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SNG grind_15

So everyone is calling this Huge push? I mean if someone with like 10k shoves its easy call, but was little unsure of this huge bet.

you have 15 bbs come on

11-21-2008 , 02:23 PM

#11

vm1124

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffRas22

you have 15 bbs come on

Never give up.

11-21-2008 , 02:27 PM

#12

SNG grind_15

journeyman

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Yeh I have 15bbs, but he has 40bbs and people behind that covers...

11-21-2008 , 03:25 PM

#13

supergood1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SNG grind_15

Yeh I have 15bbs, but he has 40bbs and people behind that covers...

yeah, he is probably just some idiot not paying attention though.

11-21-2008 , 04:07 PM

#14

Piers

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Quote:

Originally Posted by riverdance

When I raised here I pretty much decided I wasn't going to fold

then just shove your 15 bb's

If a third person enters you can get away from it.

11-21-2008 , 05:47 PM

#15

I Just Wanna Learn

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Open/call > shving.

11-21-2008 , 11:16 PM

#16

djkelly69

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SNG grind_15

So everyone is calling this Huge push? I mean if someone with like 10k shoves its easy call, but was little unsure of this huge bet.

Is it not 10k push effective, and he is just isoing on you?

11-21-2008 , 11:31 PM

#17

chrismystero

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Quote:

Originally Posted by djkelly69

Is it not 10k push effective, and he is just isoing on you?

No because people behind him have more chips

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