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12-18-2016 , 10:31 PM
Definately going with 88 here, not sure about 77 and 66, def folding 55s

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 15,000/30,000 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 18.75 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 11.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 105)
CO: 26.18 BB (VPIP: 22.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 76)
BTN: 40.82 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 35.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (SB): 16.98 BB
BB: 23.11 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 19)
UTG: 22.89 BB (VPIP: 19.70, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 66)
UTG+1: 9.96 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: 27.13 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP+1: 18.17 BB (VPIP: 25.22, PFR: 18.35, 3Bet Preflop: 8.51, Hands: 115)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 2.04 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.04 BB, Hero raises to 16.88 BB and is all-in, fold, MP+2 raises to 18.65 BB and is all-in, fold

Flop: (37.71 BB, 2 players) K A T

Turn: (37.71 BB, 2 players) T

River: (37.71 BB, 2 players) 8
12-18-2016 , 11:02 PM
Call.
12-19-2016 , 02:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by betgo
Call.
with 16bb to start the hand oop vs 2 players? I feel like thats wasting chips
12-19-2016 , 06:08 AM
Given how tight villain(MP) has been, I like a fold.
12-19-2016 , 07:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by betgo
Call.
With the 3 options that we have this has got to be the worst one.
12-19-2016 , 11:45 AM
[x] uninstal HM
12-19-2016 , 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IthinkSoToo
With the 3 options that we have this has got to be the worst one.
Stop targeting Betgo. Hes good guy.

Jamming as well w fish otb.
12-19-2016 , 06:20 PM
lmao, I was in this exact same spot early in the ACR Milly. I shoved 66 with 17bbs and the BTN tank called KQo. Of course Q hit otr

I think this deep ITM it's okay to fold. Tight MP+2 likely has a pretty good hand, and BTN might be calling you too wide to make this a profitable shove.
12-19-2016 , 07:32 PM
Again betgo, I am on his side, it just makes sense for me. Im not a long time here on 2+2 and every time i see betgo's comment, it makes the most sense for me. But i want to hear both sides go deeper so maybe other two options could make better sense. I would call because it costs me only one more bb for getting a double up hitting a set. And if no set, i can fold on a lot of boards and go on without risking my whole stack against a tight raiser and a lose player behind on button. With losing 1bb my stack dosent change a lot and didnt get hurt, right? Hmm i'mcurious now, how important is here losing one bb more? How does it affect my stack later on?

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12-19-2016 , 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xebat00
Again betgo, I am on his side, it just makes sense for me. Im not a long time here on 2+2 and every time i see betgo's comment, it makes the most sense for me. But i want to hear both sides go deeper so maybe other two options could make better sense. I would call because it costs me only one more bb for getting a double up hitting a set. And if no set, i can fold on a lot of boards and go on without risking my whole stack against a tight raiser and a lose player behind on button. With losing 1bb my stack dosent change a lot and didnt get hurt, right? Hmm i'mcurious now, how important is here losing one bb more? How does it affect my stack later on?

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I think if deeper stacked, yes this is a pretty easy call. With 16bb to start the hand its a lot different. Also, you are not closing the action and bb has a stack he can easily jam with so there are times when we call that we can't even see a flop. You'll also be xfolding on tons of flops and its not guaranteed you double when you hit your set either. Calling is bleeding chips imo but I could be wrong. Chip preservation with a short stack. You want to have enough chips to be able to reshove on opens with fold equity so saving the 1.5bb for future reshove spots or shoving for fold equity is better imo.
12-19-2016 , 08:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by persianpunisher
lmao, I was in this exact same spot early in the ACR Milly. I shoved 66 with 17bbs and the BTN tank called KQo. Of course Q hit otr

I think this deep ITM it's okay to fold. Tight MP+2 likely has a pretty good hand, and BTN might be calling you too wide to make this a profitable shove.
Yeah deep in a major it felt punty after. With only two tables left I probably should have waited for a better spot since both mp+2 and bu have uncapped ranges.
12-19-2016 , 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by user12345
Stop targeting Betgo. Hes good guy.

Jamming as well w fish otb.
We can't assume button is a fish, even with his stats, it's only a 15 hand sample size. Button has a good spot to flat nutted pairs given the blinds can reshove.

I'd much rather peel T9s than 66 in this spot b/c of its better playability post flop. Short stacked with pairs we are looking for fold equity pre flop, but we are shoving into 1, possibly 2, uncapped ranges, and I think we can find a better spot to get our chips in. I'm a nit though when it comes to reshoving deep in a tourney, but I wouldn't fold 88 either. 77 is the line for me I think.
12-20-2016 , 12:30 AM
I suggested call even though we are shallow, because we are getting about 4-1 immediate odds multiway with money already in. It also avoids getting allin with ICM issues. If BB 3bs or shoves, you can probably gii if everyone else folds and fold to more action than that. I am not sure if it is best, but it isn't throwing away chips.

      
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