BB has AQo and $26,000 chips. UTG+1 moved to the table 5 hands ago and has folded all 5 hands. He has $25,000. Most of the table has above stack avg or more. 5 hours into tourney. Blinds are $500/$1000. 350 left out of 524 that started.

UTG+1 raises to $3000. BB calls. Pot is about $6500. Flop is AJ7 rainbow. BB checks. Raiser bets $5000. After some thought, BB calls. Pot is now about $16500. turn is 5. BB checks. Raiser pushes all in for the last $17,000.

At this point, does BB call? Should he call? More details and result after I hear some comments.

of course you have to call, jeeez

(or fold pre)

Shoving pre looks good to me.

Ok, there was no shove pre flop so that's not an issue. It's about calling raiser's push on the turn. AQ can't beat AA, AK, AJ, A7 or A5, JJ, 77.

Do you call off your tournament here with AQ knowing on A you can beat is AT (push with AQ)? What are you thinking raiser had to call here?

what was your plan for the hand when you called AQ in the BB? calling off half your stack then folding on the turn despite hitting top pair? you have 25BBs to start the hand with and you should be aware of playing for your whole stack when hitting a hand like top pair. if you are not willing to do this then simply fold pre (or raise/push).

edit: if you include A7 and A5 in the range that has you beat you should include all the other aces which you have beat...when you think he only raises AT+ then only AJ and AK has you beat

this is definitely a post where u were utg+1 and made some ******ed bluff and are now monkeying out that he called you.

lol and he had KQ 4sure

100%

1/2 right. I was UTG_1. but I had AT. based on his actions on flop, I knew he had AQ. that's why I pushed. He nearly folded on flop bet. And he was only 30% committed to the pot, with $20,000 left and over an avg stack.

I knew the best hand he had was AQ, not AK. I also figured he could have medium pair. but I figure he only beats AT (what I had) and won't call there, or at least I had fold equity based on his action on the flop, timing, etc.

didn't happen, but i'm not 'monkeyed off' about it. And it wasn't a bad bluff. It didn't work out, but that doesn't mean it was wrong. I'm not sure why you think I'm upset about it. I just wondered who would call with the AQ there? Of about 6 other poker buddies, only 1 calls and the rest reluctantly fold.

So no attitude needed, just thoughts as to whether you call or not.

Wow, you must hang out with some pretty conservative poker players then

dude if hes flatting pre(which i think is bad) why in the world would he ever consider folding his hand when he flops top pair?

if you knew he had AQ why didnt you check and possibly fold or call a small bet ?

If he's so tight on the flop that once he calls your bet you know you're beat, you shouldn't be betting the flop.

I am sorry, trying to push people off AK/AQ after they hit an Ace 25bb deep is just lol.

That's why I ask. I wanted some other views. I felt my push was a close but slight +EV and it's not like it's the first time I've lost that play. but I've pushed people of AQ there before. I knew he didn't have AK, or I would have checked. And that's the reason I posted it from the BB position. I was trying to see if most people call with AQ there.

I'm not some rookie whining about busting out of a tournament, so I prefer honest dialog, which 2+2 is known for, not attitude about me asking because I'm "monkeyed out" about a bad bluff. I've made plenty of bad bluffs worse than that that I'd never ask about, because they were just stupid when I looked back. I try to respect anyone asking a question. I would appreciate the same.

Personally, I'd have folded AQ in the BB because it's too likely opener UTG_1 has AK or AJ and both beat me and I still have plenty of chips. but then it wasn't me playing. By the way, it took him 5 minutes of thinking to decide to call. he did struggle (as he almost folded the flop bet). So there was fold equity, just not enough.

thanks for your answers.

Of course I have to bet the flop. I have to find out if he's on an A and I did hit top pair. He took a while AFTER I bet the flop to call, so I knew it wasn't AK or 2 pair or set. He for sure thought about folding. That's why I got AQ (or worse).

not sure who wouldn't bet the flop. Maybe you meant turn. I never said the was that tight. I had seen him call a previous hand and fold to a flop bet.

I don't play HSMTT, but I would check the flop after hitting TPWK almost always. You are basically turning your hand into a bluff by betting unless you think villain will stack off with Ax (unlikely at this level).

checking behind flop if your hero is sooo standard with these stacks

oh, so you bet to find out where you're at

and then your sick 'put the other guy on one specific hand from two actions' live skills found out, so you decided to bluff him off top pair with 30% of his stack in the pot 20xBB deep

gotcha

shouldnt you then have also known that once a live player calls the flop with AQ there, they are probably not folding on a later street.

you realize shoving here with AT is a bluff with the reads you provided and your expectation for his actions, right? you also realize with 20 bbs noone is ever folding a better hand than yours, right?

I'm kinda lol'ing at the fact that Caesars deepstacks didn't have a 500-1000 level.

LOL all you want. I'm going from memory and it could have been 600/1200. It was close enough to make a point.